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Brian Abraham 3rd Jun 2008 10:27

139 Down Abu Dhabi
 
Report third hand or so of a 139 accident. All onboard perished (two crew and Sheikh. Sheikh in front seat). Just telling the story as told.

News item here which I guess is accident in question.
http://www.uaeinteract.com/docs/Shei...ies_/30434.htm
Sheikh Nasser Bin Zayed Al Nahyan dies
posted on 03/06/2008
The Ministry of Presidential Affairs on Tuesday announced the death of Shaikh Nasser Bin Zayed Al Nahyan, the brother of President His Highness Sheikh Khalifa Bin Zayed Al Nahyan. Sheikh Nasser died on Monday night when the helicopter carrying him and his colleagues crashed over Gulf waters.
In a statement, the Ministry of Presidential Affairs announced a three-day mourning period starting Tuesday, during which ministries and government departments will remain closed.
His Highness Sheikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice-President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai, also declared a three-day mourning period starting on Tuesday in Dubai.
Funeral prayers for Sheikh Nasser and his colleagues will be performed at the Sheikh Sultan Bin Zayed Mosque in Al Bateen.
President Sheikh Khalifa will receive condolences on Tuesday at Al Mushrif Palace after the funeral service.

spencer17 3rd Jun 2008 10:32

Confirmed. All on board dead. RIP
Just on Yahoo with one pilot out of Abu Dhabi.

IntheTin 3rd Jun 2008 11:12

http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/Government/10218137.html


Report here. R.I.P

hobiecat 3rd Jun 2008 11:19

RIP John....................

tottigol 3rd Jun 2008 12:16

Was that the Dubai's Royal Wing AW139?

RIP to all involved and prayers for the families.

hobiecat 3rd Jun 2008 12:43

Yes...........A6-BBB

Demented 3rd Jun 2008 12:58

No.....ADA 139......RIP Obaid and John

cmacltd 3rd Jun 2008 13:12

Downed 139
 
Yes I heard it was an ADA machine. RIP John, good man & true

gulfwatcher 3rd Jun 2008 13:58

RIP John, very sad for all involved...

my thoughts and prayers go out to the families

expatron 3rd Jun 2008 14:02

RIP
 
Rest in peace John, Obaid and the other pax

S.M.S 3rd Jun 2008 14:21

My thoughts and prayers go out to the families



What are the causes of the accident?

Aser 3rd Jun 2008 17:59

R.I.P. :sad:

First 139 operational crash as far I know.
There was another one during test flights in Italy.

Take care.

hot 'n dusty 3rd Jun 2008 18:25

cause of accident unconfirmed... CFIT
Waiting for the police to release the CVR and FDR to make it conclusive.

Commander in back of Helo, Sheik flying!
Night flying on instruments with co-pilot "in command":ugh:

RIP John, condolences to the famalies!

heliski22 3rd Jun 2008 18:36

I believe you're right Aser, first one in service.

What say we wait until the data is taken from the FDR/CVR and then see what happened on the basis of hard evidence rather than hearsay.

In the meantime, condolences to all those left behind. Tough time no matter what caused it.

22

.Aero 3rd Jun 2008 18:43

unspecified colleagues?
 

and an unspecified number of colleagues were killed
Sad news for all those involved - but you can't help but wonder who these other "colleagues" were that lost their lives? Are their deaths of no importance? There has been zero news about the circumstances! Why???

If there is any truth to what some of you guys are suggesting re PIC, will that ever be made public?

MrLeGuen 3rd Jun 2008 18:53

My first thought was `helicopter crash` when the radio stations all started playing laid back music in Dubai today..

told 3rd Jun 2008 19:44

My condolences too to the families and the friends of these guys ...
Damiano

Foggy Bottom 3rd Jun 2008 21:53

Haven't been with ADA for many years. I realize that it is too soon to release any full names, but perhaps the nationality of John? I know a couple of John's from my days with ADA.

Thanks

maxgross 3rd Jun 2008 22:16

So sorry to hear this news. Can someone PM me with John's last name. I also have spent time with ADA

Brian Abraham 3rd Jun 2008 23:53

I too was most intrigued that the news items had no mention of others, just the national. Question. Do the UAE aviation authorities issue public reports on these sort of events?
Condolences to the friends and families. RIP Gentlemen.

Carte blanche 4th Jun 2008 01:10

Transparent Investigations...
 
Very Sad news indeed,

For those in the know... How transparent and open is the crash investigation likely to be ??

Are the aircraft fitted with CVR?

CB

.Aero 4th Jun 2008 03:20

Transparency
 

How transparent and open is the crash investigation likely to be ??
Sadly, as horrible as this sounds, I'm not very optimistic it will be because of who was onboard which ofcourse will only fuel speculation and rumours. I find that to be unfair to the grieving family members, and the aviation community at large.

Only time will tell.

RayBan 4th Jun 2008 05:10

A6-BBB
 
The Captain was John Hanley an American who has a wife and child living in Thailand. John was Chief Pilot before becoming Operation Manager with ADA. Too early to speculate on cause of crash but John was definitely in the back seat of VIP aircraft. Co-Pilot and Shaikh at the controls...what was that all about. Tragic mistake that caused the five fatalities.

griffothefog 4th Jun 2008 05:23

Can someone in the know p.m. me with the name of the co-pilot please?
RIP John.

Lightonwheels 4th Jun 2008 08:07

139 Down Abu Dabai?
 
My heartfelt condolences to all those left behind to grieve the irreperable loss.
It will be in the interest of us all who fly the AW 139 and in the reputation of the manufacturers of the 139 to make public the reasons for the crash. In the meantime as professional courtesy demands we should stop speculation and not spread rumors.

TRE52 4th Jun 2008 09:39

RIP to a larger than life character
 
Condolences to John's and the others families. Certainly a larger than life character in the aviation industry. RIP mate.

RayBan 4th Jun 2008 21:05

A6-BBB
 
National Co-Pilot's name is Obaid Al Mahashdra.

S.M.S 4th Jun 2008 21:06

picture of the UAE 139 accident !
 
http://www.qatarshares.com/vb/attach...1&d=1212588991

Hughesy 5th Jun 2008 05:10

Not much of a horizon there.
Just a thought, and not meant to get any one's back up but maybe overwater flight with a poorly defined horizon and a small unoticed ROD.
Similar thing happend to an offshore machine which i read about on prune.

Condolences to friends and family.

rehnas 5th Jun 2008 07:01

john hanley [ 0perations manager ]

hot 'n dusty 5th Jun 2008 07:06

Hi Foggy
John was american, Married to a Thai lady and was living in Thailand.
His Body will be sent to Thailand within next 2-3 days

Hot 'n dusty

cmwangs 5th Jun 2008 13:06

ADA Accident.
 
This is indeed a tragedy, and is incumbent on those left behind to learn from this, regardless of cause.
What is certain is this presentation of our own mortality, our abilities and responsibilities is now up front and very personal.
We cannot, and indeed should not take for granted even the slightest issue with our profession.
Who is right is never the issue; what is right will always surface.
My condolence to the Families and friends.
Yet another tragic loss.:(

S.M.S 5th Jun 2008 13:31


Not much of a horizon there
The accident was between 19:45 to 20:00 !

sk76driver 5th Jun 2008 13:33

sad to say but....
 
sad thing is john would have felt the "pressure" on this one...........:ugh:

RIP John............

raul duke 5th Jun 2008 15:25

recovered from the crash site
 
The 139 has both CVR and FDR, both of which are in the hands of the UAE Airforce now.:suspect:

Hughesy 6th Jun 2008 04:35

The accident was between 19:45 to 20:00 !

In my country its pretty light at that time in summer. although im not sure whats it like over in the UAE.
In northern Canada we never have issues with an horizon in snow conditions that time of day.:rolleyes:

Still as sad event.

S.M.S 6th Jun 2008 05:01


In my country its pretty light at that time in summer. although im not sure whats it like over in the UAE
dark night ! :ouch:

hobiecat 6th Jun 2008 07:30

Hughesy:


Our snow storms over here in the Gulf aren't nearly as frequent as yours?:ugh:

Waylon J 6th Jun 2008 08:51

His name was JOHN HANLEY.

Waylon J 6th Jun 2008 08:58

A6-BBB
 
Transparency ??? I hope.
The FDR/CVR are in the hands of the UAE Airforce and are supposed to be sent to Agusta for processing.
I guess Agusta may send the unit back to Penny & Giles or the NTSB for analysis.


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