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MikeNYC 7th Mar 2018 14:37


Originally Posted by nocarsgo (Post 10075354)
Anyone know more about the camera mount as seen in this Cabri photo from Heli-Expo? TopShot is the camera company. Looks like it would go in place of the lower left plexiglass piece.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...02868129734716

Also, with the so the R44 will continue to have no direct competitors then, that's a shame.

Not sure where you got "TopShot" from, but the correct company name is visible in a bunch of places..

The camera gimbal company is Shotover (Shotover Camera Systems). They are one of the leaders in gyrostabilized gimbals. They're NZ-based with offices in the US as well. They currently offer larger gimbals (K1 for large lenses, oversize cinema cameras, the F1 for smaller cinema cameras and ENG use) and smaller gimbals (G1 for drones, cable cam and remote head use).

This new gimbal is believed to be called the B1. It hasn't been officially announced, and more information will be coming out at NAB (Nat'l Association of Broadcasters) conference in Las Vegas next month.

KiwiNedNZ 7th Mar 2018 19:53

Actually the M1 is going to be unveiled at NAB not the B1. The B1 was something Brad came up with and decided to just put the mockup on the G2 at Heli Expo to see what the interest was. He also has the U1 which is the drone.

MikeNYC 7th Mar 2018 23:26


Originally Posted by KiwiNedNZ (Post 10076239)
Actually the M1 is going to be unveiled at NAB not the B1. The B1 was something Brad came up with and decided to just put the mockup on the G2 at Heli Expo to see what the interest was. He also has the U1 which is the drone.

Good point. There’s also the F1 Rush, F1 Live and a few other products.

CaptGoncaloLemos 12th Mar 2018 20:52

Cabri g2 issues and troubles
 

Originally Posted by CRAN (Post 10074937)
During his lecture last year at the Royal Aeronautical Society, Bruno actually said that there are no fixed time scales for the G4 yet and he is very undecided about engines. The company is focusing on the drone first.

The G4 is likely to be quite a way into the future I'm afraid.

:(

I think Bruno should first correct all the mistakes on G2 before thinking on any other project!.... I couldn’t believe if not witnessed the several ridiculous and danger mistakes from a manufacter like guimbal maked on Cabri G2!
For a quick example the oilseal from the MGB not having a all or a stoper...and being possible to came out in mid flight and losing all the oil on MGB....
another example the manifold pressure hose fittings smashing the nylon hose and gets lose and leaking ...

nocarsgo 15th Mar 2018 02:42


Vertical Freedom 15th Mar 2018 05:42

that's a Mountain H recce????................cheeez almost 10 mins & what a landing; clueless, wouldn't be hiring those guys for mountain workz :\

[email protected] 15th Mar 2018 07:31

He is in almost flat calm conditions and doesn't mention wind until he has been round the peak several times - he should do another video with 20 kts of wind and see how well that profile goes.

ShyTorque 15th Mar 2018 09:51

Seems that the pilot flying judged the altitude better than the instructor.

GrosBof 18th Mar 2018 00:51


Originally Posted by JimL (Post 10075879)
You can find in here:

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Past events can always be found in the 'Video and Audio Archive'.

Jim

I can't find any video of that lecture. That's too bad, it seems that during the presentation they were able to see some sketch or rough ideas of the G4.
Is the video available somewhere?

HeliHenri 15th May 2018 14:13

.
A new article and a small video from aopa about the G2 :
http://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/a...ot/sleeper-hit
.

r22butters 15th May 2018 15:28


Originally Posted by HeliHenri (Post 10147461)
.
A new article and a small video from aopa about the G2 :
http://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/a...ot/sleeper-hit
.

Well considering the higher cost, lets hope it stays asleep!

KNIEVEL77 15th May 2018 15:38

I had the dilemma of cost over safety and decided to go with the Cabri and after a 12 month break, I’m just about to restart and hopefully complete my training at Helicentre Aviation in Leicester.

HeliHenri 15th May 2018 15:53


Originally Posted by r22butters (Post 10147513)
Well considering the higher cost, lets hope it stays asleep!

Don't you think it's a good thing to get choice ?!
.

r22butters 15th May 2018 16:30


Originally Posted by HeliHenri (Post 10147528)


Don't you think it's a good thing to get choice ?!
.

If the school I rent from wants to get "a" Cabri that's fine, as long as they keep the more affordable 22 around for those of us not rolling in dough!

,...and the choice to pay more for training has always been there, Schweizer, Enstrom, R44,...Cabri isn't doing anything new there! :rolleyes:

[email protected] 15th May 2018 16:34

How much more is the Cabri than the Robinson to buy and run?

Seems to me that a basic trainer that doesn't want to disassemble itself in midair or rollover with the merest hint of lateral movement and is easy to auto is a pretty good thing.

Spunk 15th May 2018 18:43

Cabri @ USD 450.000
R22 @ USD 350.000

... rough guess

r22butters 15th May 2018 18:55


Originally Posted by Spunk (Post 10147659)
Cabri @ USD 450.000
R22 @ USD 350.000

... rough guess

If you just want to rent that R22, take about $100 bucks off of that guess.

,...and I live in one of the most expensive states, some guys are flying 22's for even less!

malabo 15th May 2018 21:50


Seems to me that a basic trainer that doesn't want to disassemble itself in midair or rollover with the merest hint of lateral movement and is easy to auto is a pretty good thing.
Sure, if someone else is paying for it, or if you don't have the talent to complete the licence in the regulatory minimum with the R22 but think you might with the more benign Cabri. Otherwise the piece of paper at the end that says Commercial looks exactly the same and only your bank account knows the difference.

I really like the Cabri, I instruct and think it is a much better trainer, just too bad it isn't priced lower than an R22.

r22butters 15th May 2018 23:34

Here's a place that has both.

Helicopter Flight Training Packages & Pricing : Eat Sleep Fly ®

So, given that school's pricing,...

For the 200 hours you need to teach in the R22 its $61,000.
With the Cabri you should only need 150 hours to teach (no SFAR 73) so its $58,500.

Not much of a difference for you students I guess,..if you can do it all in just 150 hours, and someone out thre will hire a 150 hour Cabri CFI?

For me though, as just a renter, its $105 more per hour to go joyriding around, so again no thanks!

KNIEVEL77 21st May 2018 16:48


Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 10147551)
How much more is the Cabri than the Robinson to buy and run?

Seems to me that a basic trainer that doesn't want to disassemble itself in midair or rollover with the merest hint of lateral movement and is easy to auto is a pretty good thing.


It is a good thing but I’ve noticed here in the UK FTOs are still going mainly down the Robinson route, probably down to cost.


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