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ericferret 5th Feb 2009 19:31

Does anybody know if the FAA's grounding of Alouette 2's for supposedly being ex military aircraft and not being eligable for a c of a been recinded or resolved?

500e 5th Feb 2009 21:02

No and there are more than 2 now

enstrompilot 8th Feb 2009 20:15

AL3
 
I discovered 2 x AL3's in indonesia

nice condition

may still be on the market

Price ?

enstrompilot 8th Feb 2009 20:32

pandalet
 
There have been several groups of 6+ al2's sold by the German army.

The last batch was sold mid 2008, typical prices for a fully working machine E160K, there are no more !

Hungary CAA has been willing to provide a full EASA CofA once 'civilianization' work is complete. overall machine cost E200K on the reg.

Hungary is a good reg for Helicopters.

Hungary CAA visit UK each year to sign off the Annual

Insurance is typically E800 (yes that right £ 600 ish)

You need a Hungarian airman's certificate and Hungary based training.

Maintenance can be done in UK by two UK based, Hungarian approved engineers - who are very experienced on AL2's - great chaps, reasonably priced.

Spares can be tricky, but I (and other al2 owners) build up stocks of parts and between us with have, so far, not had a problem. Clutches, pumps, some sensors are hard to find but not impossible. MR Blades will eventually be the limiting issue.

My machine (3 yrs - 200+ hrs) is Very reliable, a little thirsty (160 Ltr/hr), noisy but great to fly.

100+ Kts - 5 seats, 3hr endurance, loads of lift, no great vices.

I can't think of a better, low cost, turbine.

if you looking for one I know of 2 that may be for sale. if you want to see one 'in the flesh' come visit at eastbourne.

Ian

eride 19th Dec 2009 01:47

Alouette II
 
Hi
New to the post. Does any one know or have info on Alouette II as a crop duster? How does it perform? any recurring maintenance issue etc. Also am looking for a POH as well as maintenance manuals for 318C in English, thanks in advance.

md 600 driver 19th Dec 2009 09:06

the allouete 11 318 is used for crop dusting in hungary not sure about the 313

500e 19th Dec 2009 10:17

[email protected]
Try Mike based in West Virginia

eride 19th Dec 2009 17:21

318C as crop duster
 
thanks, any info on contacts in Hungary?

enstrompilot 19th Dec 2009 17:35

POH
 
hi

I have POH and full maintenance manuals for 318c and engine (also 313b)

in english and french !

what do you need ?

Ian

eride 20th Dec 2009 01:27

Alouette II POH, M&O manuals
 
enstrompilot
I am looking for both POH and maintenance & Overhaul manuals for Alouette II, send me an e-mail at [email protected] thanks

dushandimitrov 23rd Dec 2009 13:22

FOM for Allouette
 
Hallo, please send me FOM for Allouette and you have..., I need ASAP! I can send for you a any Enstrom280...I have FOM, Engine manuals... and more...forFX
[email protected]

nigelh 23rd Dec 2009 17:26

Enstrom Pilot ....i am surprised at you with a name like that saying it is the best first turbine !! What about the 480B ? It costs almost nothing to maintain , v cheap spares and insurance , 5 seats (just) , almost half the fuel burn , longer endurance much faster (115kn)....AND very quiet !!! You can get a 4 to 5 year old one with only 5-700 hrs for under $500k . Best safety record in the industry and very easy to fly ....what more could you want ??

elro 23rd Dec 2009 23:32

Hi im currently looking for parts for a 313B ship. Anyone with any....please pm me and we will go from there. Thanks

bolkow 24th Dec 2009 09:17

I'd try the Irish Air Corps who I belive have their remaining seven lying up idle and stored after buying their newer hardward. Most have around the 8000 mark in terms of airframe hours accumulated over a 40 year period.

dushandimitrov 24th Dec 2009 11:02

FOM for Allouette
 
Please help, I need ASAP of FOM for Allouette2
Dushan

md 600 driver 24th Dec 2009 12:43

bolkow
the irish ones were sold last year [ or earlier this year]

dushan
you sent me pm whats a FOM ?

elro 25th Dec 2009 13:41

The Irish machines currently reside in northern France. They are stripped and the owner quoted a 25k price tag for just the airframe:hmm:

md 600 driver 27th Dec 2009 08:30

i think he must live in a dream world 25k

enstrompilot 28th Dec 2009 16:27

nigelH

you are spot on the 480B is a great machine !, shame that it has an allison engine (i heard its easy to spoil your day when starting) and shame only nearly 5 seats, a little sad the limited range and sader still that a 5 yr old one cost 500K (only ?)

agree re safety record and great to fly

alouette has more range, more lift, lower cost of ownerhip, lower purchase cost (£130-£150K), is old, ugly and noisey (and for a turbine slow ish), so not every ones first choice, but they are a turbine for piston costs (with turbine reliability and rugged engineering !)

I guess you pays your money and makes your choice !

what else would be a good first turbine ? whst if one has a thing against the Allison, what other choices ?

mtoroshanga 29th Dec 2009 08:59

Alouettes
 
Just an aside, in the Air Force we would run our Alouettes on deisel from time to time, watch out for blocked fuel filter and torchigniters though.


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