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Gunship 22nd Oct 2004 11:46

Alouette Clutch
 
Good morning Rotorheads,

I am urgently looking for an Alouette III 319B clutch.

Can anyone urgently help please ?

Kind regards and best wishes.

Gunssss

alouette 24th Oct 2004 07:46

clutch
 
Hi,

Have you tried to contact some Alouette operators in Switzerland? Air Glacier in Sion comes to my mind since they operate a few. If this lead is not promising maybe try to contact Air-Zermatt and they might able to guide you into the right direction, because they operated two 319's in the past. :ok:

Gunship 24th Oct 2004 12:58

Many thanks Alouette - we will try them first thing tomorrow morning.

Do you perhaps have any contact details ?

Many thanks in advance,

Gunssss

alouette 24th Oct 2004 15:58

clutch
 
Ok, I think the chief engineer at Air-Zermatt is Rene Lauber and he is based in Raron. As mentioned they don't operate them anymore but I think it is a solid lead to get a clutch from somewhere. Just in case I provide you also with the number of the heliport in Zermatt

Heliport Zermatt
Tel. +41 27 966 8686

Heliport Raron
Tel. +41 27 935 8686



I don't know Air Glacier personally but here is the number of the heliport in Lauterbrunnen and Sion.

Air Glaciers SA, Lauterbrunnen, Heliport, CH-3822 Lauterbrunnen
Telefon +41-33 8 560 560 Fax +41-33 8 560 566
e-mail : [email protected]

Air Glacier Sion Tel: +41-27 329 14 15, Fax: +41-27 329 14 19

Maybe Air Glacier got some contacts to the french gendarmarie. They operated SA 319's but they started to phase them out and replace them with EC 145's.


Sure hope this helps let me know.
:ok:

SASless 24th Oct 2004 16:25

Geo-Seis Helicopters in Fort Collins, Colorado....

geoseis.com

lamanated 26th Oct 2004 14:56

give joe at helicraft in canada a ring,Someone in Oregan I think bought the one we had and he has rebuilt several that operate in alaska.Joe might know his name.
[email protected]

cpt 26th Oct 2004 16:19

Hi Gunship,

I know that Air Affaires Gabon has operated an SA 319 some time ago, maybe do they still have some spares. The chief engineer here is Gilles Grelaud and the manager M. Viallaret . They are based in Libreville (Gabon) but I don t have their contact here.

Somebody else who could help is M. Rommet René of "Heli Secours" based in Annecy in France, he owns a good supply of Al 3 spares but mainly SA 316 B
Phone ; 00 33 4 50 27 22 45
Fax; 00 33 4 50 27 39 94 ( don t know their mail )

Good luck !

Buitenzorg 26th Oct 2004 22:31

Gunns,

Contact Roberts Aircraft, also in Ft. Collins, Colorado. THE Alouetten and Lama shop in the USA. If they can't help you...

Best of luck.

Choppersquad 5th Feb 2005 19:01

alouette 11 perforamce
 
can anyone tell me what do they think of the alloutte two
performacnce max vne
operating costs
when was the last one made
are parts expensive or hard to get.
is there an alloutte two club web site
is the lama the same machine.
how safe are they .


thanks for your imput .

cs

Rotorbee 5th Feb 2005 21:27

We called them fuel to noise converters.
There are some alluette II flying in switzerland. Verein für Exotic & Antique Flying Machines in Speck/Fehraltorf has one and Air Glaciers in Sion. Ask them what they think.
The Lama is more or less an alluette II with an alluette III dynamic system. A almost totaly different machine.
Parts are harder and harder to get.

Choppersquad 7th Feb 2005 19:38

thanks
rotorbee
i will look them up.

cs

Curtis E Carr 8th Feb 2005 11:14

Having flown them for 500 hours in the military, I found them enormous fun. They have simple systems that work and starting the beast is simplicity itself. It is a sturdy machine and certainly got me out of one or two sticky situations. In the summer, we generally flew with doors off which added to the excitement, particularly when operating at 7000' at ISA+25-30!. I would certainly recommend the Lark as an excellent entry level turbine machine. I'm afraid that I cannot comment on running costs, parts availability etc as I have not flown them since.

Hope this helps.

tolipZO 9th Feb 2005 05:39

Alouette crash in Argentina
 
Looks like an Alouette crashed in Argentine caught on news camera, all 3 survived and walked away from the crash. At least this crash news story about helicopters ends with good news.

Benet 9th Feb 2005 11:21

Yes - I have pictures which I will link to when possible!

Benet
(with Reuters hat on)

Words here written by a colleague.

Sadly it doesn\'t look like we\'re going to host the pictures. Aircraft appears to lose power shortly after takeoff. There\'s a very badly-timed cut in the picture, but I don\'t think it ever gets above 20\' AGL. Attitude and heading appear controlled but it flies into the ground at a high forward speed with no attempt at a flare. Watching the impact makes me go \'oof\' every time... main rotor removes empennage, cockpit intact, some smoke but no flames after landing. Crew disembark looking dazed but running away from aircraft all the same.

Hope this helps...

AuxHyd 9th Feb 2005 12:26

Lama
 
Looks like it's an Argentine Air Force Lama attempting to pull out the bodies of two pilots of a Cessna 340 that crashed a few days earlier during a cloud seeding operation.

http://www.lavozdelinterior.com/2005...ta303615_1.htm

flygunz 9th Feb 2005 14:02

I would like to agree with Curtis; the Allouette that we flew in the med was a lovely machine to work with. Like him I can't really comment on operating costs but can confirm that spares are difficult to come by and may be expensive due to that. Max vne if I remember was somewhere around 110 kts but you would have to check that. Watch out for the floor mounted Emer fuel cut off right next to the engine governer/throttle!

Why not get a Scout, much more fun?

Curtis, send me a PM, sure we should know each other.

Buitenzorg 9th Feb 2005 14:21

Fun to fly.
Slow.
No real handling vices.
Noisy.
Very reliable engine.
High fuel consumption.

In general a very reliable aircraft, BUT to achieve this reliability requires a lot of daily maintenance (greasing etc.) AND an engineer with lots of experience on type. There's a lot to know that isn't spelled out in the maintenance manuals.

And yes, parts are harder and harder to come by and expensive.

Curtis E Carr 10th Feb 2005 06:45

We certainly do know each other, Gunz. Will call you on the dog.

All the best.

highfinal 12th Jun 2006 21:37

Alouette
 
Does anyone have a start up checklist for the SA-316/SA-319? Also any type quirks or peculiarities it would be worth knowing.

Would be greatly appreciated :ok:

md 600 driver 13th Jun 2006 07:11

hi final if you dont get one quick i will photocopy the parts from the poh for the 316 but i cant for 2 weeks
steve


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