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andyhelo 4th Sep 2005 20:18

Owen flying to training?
 
I heard something about Michael Owen wanting to stay at his home but fly up to newcastle for training, matches etc, anyone heard of this and can elaborate?

SilsoeSid 4th Sep 2005 20:40

Don't know the rumour, but from the Telegraph;


Over the next few months, as he always does, Owen will make the best of things. The consummate professional, he will train hard, find temporary accommodation nearby, so as not to exhaust himself in the commute, and will doubtless score goals.
Source

With the commuting plan, as football is a 'bad weather sport' seasonally, and as this is in the Rotorheads forum, I would think the alternate plan, according to my version of AutoRoute, would involve a commute from Concha Espina 1, 28036 Madrid to NE1 4ST of 1346.6 miles which would take 2 days 4 hours and 54 minutes-ish.

He may well be better than Beckham in George Bests eyes, but somehow I can't see any club putting up with that kind of plan!

But with their kind of money......why not Eh?

;)
SS

p.s. Perhaps not a Rotorhead topic!

andyhelo 4th Sep 2005 20:47

You do realise that Owen has moved to Newcastle Untited Football Club, dont you? My question would then be directed to flying from his house-in GREAT BRITAIN, to his NEW club in newcastle.

helicopter-redeye 5th Sep 2005 08:03

could train him so he could fly himself like the footballer in todays pilot

Double Echo 5th Sep 2005 09:23

He has moved into one of the properties on an estate nearby owned by Sir John Hall. Source: My Dad's best mate, who is his next door neighbour!!!!;)

helicopter-redeye 5th Sep 2005 09:44

actually in the same article, this guy was riding a motorbike as well

but I'm sure he'd rather have a helichauffer

Minty Fresh 5th Sep 2005 10:11

I Spoke to the guy who flew him into Ascot (at York) in June

He was already interested in heli's and which he should buy.

There may be a very nice job for one of your pro's (or a ppl employed as his bag carrier - but thats another thread altogether!!! - No bites please!!)

FloaterNorthWest 5th Sep 2005 13:19

The charter is already booked.

Apparently he will fly up twice a week and stay in accomodation paid for by the club, they are also paying for the helicopter.

What will he do with all his own money?

FNW

Sailor Vee 5th Sep 2005 16:32


What will he do with all his own money?
Well, if I had his wages, 90% would go on women and drink, I'd prolly squander the rest!!:E

Billywizz 6th Sep 2005 08:38

10% to sqaunder on gambling does not seem very much!

SilsoeSid 6th Sep 2005 09:52


You do realise that Owen has moved to Newcastle Untited Football Club, dont you? My question would then be directed to flying from his house-in GREAT BRITAIN, to his NEW club in newcastle.
I did, but I didn't realise that he kept the gaff in Wales.

Apparently Shearer will be putting him up for the time being and he is now house hunting in Newcastle.

Source

By the way, "In the meantime, he has decided against commuting by helicopter."

SS

andyhelo 6th Sep 2005 23:41

Thank you for that information SilsoeSid.

John Eacott 7th Sep 2005 01:47

Obviously well know to the Poms here, but for those of us (USA included ;) ) who haven't the faintest......

Who is Owen?

EESDL 7th Sep 2005 07:12

Who is Owen
 
A bit like saying 'Babe Ruth?'

Seriously though, he's a small, hometown scouser (Liverpool), who is phenomenal in the skills of playing soccer - the only player who literally ran circles around the Argentinians and Brazilians.
You have heard of the Argentinians, I think the Yanks stopped buying spam from them as a nation back in the early '80s:-)

John Eacott 8th Sep 2005 09:50

Oh, well: if we're talking sportsmen, the 5th Ashes have just started.

All over a pair of bails my mate's great great grandmother burnt as a joke ;)

Ian Corrigible 1st Jan 2006 21:35

Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
...according to the Telegraph. 'Course, having just broken his foot he'll have to wait a while before he can use the pedals. Either that, or he'll be doing left turns over the field all day... :E

Anyone ever trained from scratch on a Dauphin ?


I/C

widgeon 1st Jan 2006 21:43

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
I went to college near Northrop hall , seem to recall lotsa tall trees in the area .
What is rep power ?

paddyboy 1st Jan 2006 22:29

Ah, bless..
 

He hopes to obtain his own licence within the next two years. But before that, he will have to accrue more than 35 hours of flying time.

Once he has his basic licence he will have to sit more exams and tests before he is allowed to fly his more advanced twin-engine Eurocopter.
:hmm:


Given the tough exams and hours of study required to pass the flying tests, however, it is unlikely that Owen and Ferdinand will start a trend among millionaire footballers.
:rolleyes:

Apologies for the sarcasm...:E

Let the debate ensue.

swordfling 2nd Jan 2006 14:19

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
According to the Times... "I read somewhere yesterday that I am meant to be taking helicopter lessons, which is news to me."

SASless 2nd Jan 2006 14:35

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
Hang on....in the UK...he cannot learn to fly in the Dauphin can he? The Aviation Mafia requires one to learn on single engine helicopters then later progress to twins....or am I mistaken here?

In fact....don't they get a bit huffy over someone wanting to buy an MOD surplus Gazelle and start his learning process in that machine?

Now the question of the week for the Licensing types here....TRE's included...CFI's as well.....If I have the money to buy a Bristow surplus Tiger ....why should I not be able to have someone teach me to fly from scratch with my personal machine?

Anne Tenner 2nd Jan 2006 15:04

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
So Tudor has broken his foot and bought an AS365. Sounds like an interesting start to 2006!

headsethair 2nd Jan 2006 15:07

Knickers in a twist
 
The Owen story was in his Times column in November - where he announced his purchase. Then he got injured at the weekend - new year's holiday - slow news - journalist wanting to file copy and push off. So the Telegraph piece was complete speculation about him taking lessons - however it gets read by all other media. They are similarly lazy/bored/want to get to pub/home - so they repeat it.

Way of the world.

Of course they would be better off investigating why 6 top players (incl Rooney, Neville, Beckham) have had the same injury in less than 3 years - why boots don't offer protection to the top of the foot - and why "blade studs" arrival has triggered these injuries.

But that would be asking a journalist to do some research.....and we all wonder why they get aviation stories screwed up.;)

happyhamster 2nd Jan 2006 16:09

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
SASless

LASORS states that after 70 hours of twin time PIC, a PPL flight test can be taken on a twin. Someone please shoot me if I have interpretted this wrongly.

HH


( section C2.4 - page 10 of section C )

Pat Malone 2nd Jan 2006 16:40

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
Important not to be too sniffy when there's a chance of some positive publicity about helicopters in the mass media.
Mike Smith of Flying TV was on BBC Radio talking about this last night and came across very well – as he should, after all the practice he's had.
The fact that Michael Owen has no intention of learning to fly the thing can be glossed over for the purpose in hand.

Banjo 2nd Jan 2006 16:53

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
To take a multi engine helicopter (PPL or commercial) rating you must have

A) Passed the theoretical knowledge examinations in accordance with JAR2.470 for the CPL (H), or, hold a certificate of satisfactory completion of a pre entry approved course in accordance with appendix 1 to Jar-FCL 2.255

B) Have completed at lease 70 hours as pilot in command of helicopters in accordance with appendices 1 & 3 of 2.240


In other words complete your ppl then do 70 hours of P1 flying (would have to be on a single as you are not yet twin rated)get head in exam books and then you will be able to start on the type rating course. Oh and have a big bank balance because the insurance premiums will be high indeed.

Spunk 2nd Jan 2006 20:03

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
In good old Germany you are only allowed to do primary training in an aircraft which is certified for 4 seats or less. Leaves it more or less to the old but proven pistons.:confused:

STANDTO 3rd Jan 2006 15:04

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
2 million?

How old will that be then? Seems a steal for a 365.

I am glad that you can take your PPL(H) in a twin, as that is the plan when the 6 numbers come up. Bit more modest though, a 355 will do fine

Flying Pencil 4th Jan 2006 14:29

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
FCL-2 states max 4 persons a/c for PPL (H) training. Anyone know of people training on a jetranger..? Perhaps I missed the exemption annexe.

FP.

Flingingwings 4th Jan 2006 16:18

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
FP,
Isn't a new stude of yours looking to learn from scratch on a 206????

Or has that all changed???

:E
FW

ThomasTheTankEngine 4th Jan 2006 17:10

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 

Originally Posted by norunway
Intruction For Initial Ppl(h) Can Only Be Undertaken On Types With A Maximum Seating Configuration Of Four Or Less Be It Turbine Or Piston Powered

This is not quite correct JAR FCL 2 states "A Registered Facility can only give training for the issue of a PPL(H) on a helicopter with a maximum of 4 seats"

SO an FTO approved to give PPL(H) training as one of it's course's can give PPL(H) training for the issue of the PPL(H) on a helicopter with more than 4 seats.

cyclic flare 5th Jan 2006 14:32

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
Jorden (aka Katie Price) is apparently taking heli lessons, now i'd rather teach her than a scouser than cant kick a ball straight

ppheli 9th Jan 2006 09:18

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
Cyclic Flare - just wondering whether Jordan's training started with "weight and balance calculations" ?? D'you reckon she'd understand that?

Flying Pencil - there was certainly someone some years back (rules prob changed since) at Fairoaks who learned on the family B206 and then later did a piston conversion (yes, from a turbine to a piston...) so she could also fly the family R22 gismo. Yes, they had both at that time..

MightyGem 9th Jan 2006 10:22

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
I believe that there was a quote from him in one of the Sunday papers along the lines of: "I believe I'm supposed to be learning to fly a helicopter. That's news to me"

handysnaks 9th Jan 2006 19:46

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
How come you never see swordfling and mightygem in the same room at the same time?:hmm: :rolleyes:

MightyGem 10th Jan 2006 14:03

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 

How come you never see swordfling and mightygem in the same room at the same time
Not quite sure what your getting at there, handy.

YYZ 10th Jan 2006 14:32

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
The beast itself, allegedly?

http://tinypic.com/k15agz.jpg

YYZ

AlanM 10th Jan 2006 14:41

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
That has to be one of the worst colour schemes I have seen on a 365 (whether it is Owen's or not!)

Yukkkkk :=

YYZ 10th Jan 2006 15:02

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
That's the colour he purchased it in, he may well change it, the interior is very nice though, like new.

handysnaks 10th Jan 2006 18:20

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 

Not quite sure what your getting at there, handy.
OK D, I mean MG

2nd January 2006, 15:19 Posted by
swordfling
According to the Times... "I read somewhere yesterday that I am meant to be taking helicopter lessons, which is news to me."
Now, I hate to get all TC;) on you but

Yesterday, 11:22 Posted by
MightyGem
I believe that there was a quote from him in one of the Sunday papers along the lines of: "I believe I'm supposed to be learning to fly a helicopter. That's news to me"
If you have to explain......:rolleyes: :p

Sioux4D 10th Jan 2006 19:01

Re: Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training
 
That is most definitely a Mars Bar livery, and judging by the registration......melty!


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