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Female Helicopter pilots.....
How many female ATLP(H) pilots are there out there??
Don't hear from any female helo pilots, full stop.. Doesn't the profession attract them? http://www.gograph.com/Images-7298/A...if/redstar.gif ------------------ Thermal runaway. |
Female CHPL here... will eventually get my ATPL(H) though..
can understand why the industry does not attract more women given some of the attitudes I've encountered. Having said that I've also been very plesantly surprised by others. times are a changing... and for the better I might add. |
Hmmmmmmmmmm............
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I just thought they were smarter than us :-)
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We are, Heloteacher... but occasionally a few of us are selected to show ya'll just how much further you still have to come... http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/tongue.gif
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We have got 2 ATPLH and 2 CPLH in our Company.
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As a little aside:
don't know whether you stray into other forums but the Army Air Corps Helicopter Display Team will have a female pilot in it this year. |
If god had intended women to fly then he would have painted the sky pink!!!!
It's Blue isn't it He He Just kidding girls |
I've flown with 2 , both excellent IFR pilots.
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I have a friend in one of my pilot organizations who was an original Whirlygirl, an early group of women heli pilots. She owned a H269, plus a handful of seized-wings over the years. She was even one of thirteen women selected to be trained as astronauts! (The program was cancelled before any of them were allowed to go into space.) She's a great lady and so humble that it's hard to get her to talk about her accomplishments.
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I seem to speak to a lot of female heli pilots as a controller working the North Sea heli traffic. I have to say evryone I have spoken to is very professional and I've never had a problem with any.
Not that we get a lot of problems with any of you but there is the occasional "disagreement". Keep up the good work Gals/Guys. D8 |
I have certainly noticed that the female pilots who fly the North Sea sectors are less prone to "talking on the other box" syndrome than their male counterparts. :)
I agree with D8, you helo guys certainly give us an easier ride (no pun intended girls!) and tend to be more flexible than some of your fixed wing counterparts. Thanks and keep it up (damn..there I go again.. :rolleyes: ) |
I have met quite a few female helo pilots around in my travels and the majority have been very capable. In fact one of the best ones here in NZ was unfortunately killed in a wire strike last year. Marybeth Rodriguez has a great job in Southern California flying Don Callendars Bell 407.
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Well, as a PPL(H) presently struggling with CPL exams I can't stand up and be counted, not yet anyway. But there do seem to be quite a few women steadily climbing the ladder, probably more than there used to be. Women are a small minority in aviation generally - are there proportionally less of them flying helos, or just less helo pilots altogether? I'm not sure. But I suspect the reasons are the usual ones - girls less likely to hear about it when young or even think it possible, women still tend to earn less so have trouble affording the training, many flying jobs have anti-social hours and most societies still expect women to be the family carers, and prejudice is still around. As to women's abilities, I was under the strange illusion one needed to co-ordinate hands and feet to fly helos, not certain appendages... oops, this is Rotorheads, not Jet Blast, better stop there. Anyway, I think it's just that changing people's attitudes takes time. Give it 20 years, then we'll be considered normal and not a novelty (and no-one will know instantly that it's me cocking up radio calls :) ).
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I have to say I agree with Whirlybird... the helicopter industry is not something many women are exposed or invited to consider. It's still very much a male domianted environment and that can be very intimidating. I'm not sure about the stats anywhere else in the world but here in canada there are approximatly only 83 female helicopter pilots out of roughly 4000. a slim minority..
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Hey Whirlybird.It's not too late. Instead of finishing your CPLH , go fixed-wing instead.
If you think about it , rotary wing is a dead end career. After the initial thrill is over and your at the top of the profession, you will realize that as an off-shore captain (North America) you'll make less than a co-pilot flying jets, with no travel privileges and no further advancement. I made the mistake of staying too long in helicopters. Best of luck IHL. |
When Hughes helicopters first designed and certified the 269 they wanted to show how easy it was to fly. They took one of the secretaries who also happened to be very attractive and trained her how to fly a helicopter. They took her all the way to commercial and got her an instructor’s ticket and sent her all over the world demonstrating the model 269. She was obviously very successful as they sold a lot of them as a result of her trip and demonstration. Her name was Roses Weidinger (possible misspelling of last name).
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One of New Zealand's first helo instructors was a women called Cathy Penney. She became one of the most respected helo instructors in the country and turned out many a good student. Back when I was younger I knew of a few flying ag aircraft and this was some fifteen years ago so they have been flying in NZ for some time.
However over in Australia have not run into that many at all. PR http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/cool.gif |
I knew two young, very beautiful and educated ladies who were both Helicopter Pilots. I flew with one of them one time and discovered she was so smart that she could do anything. I never flew with her again. Sadly they were both killed in the same helicopter. As I understand it was doing things experienced men could not do.
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Whirlygirl,
83 out of 4000 sounds like roughly what I would have expected. In the UK, according to the CAA, approximately 2% of commercial pilots are women - same for fixed wing and rotary I think. It sounds as though Canada is about the same. ------------------ Whirly To fly is human, to hover, divine. |
The fact that so many of us remember the 'minority' is evidence in itself!
An MBE (equiv.) was handed out in 1997 (in NZ) to a female rescue pilot, for a SAR in the Alps. I had the plesure of 'rescuing' a dutch B105 crew in Bosnia in 1998 (after an engine failure)......most astounded when the helmets came off to reveal long blonde locks. Males/females...bah humbug. If you're up to the task, welcome. As to the fixed-wing comments above (????) having spent 4000hrs on helos, I'm off to the A340; I'll never regret the path I've taken. Good luck to you all. |
Female Helicopter pilots.....
I started a thread in the Military Aircrew forum about a US Army Blackhawk pilot that got wounded in Iraq....did so after seeing a C-Span interview of her at Walter Reed Army Hospital. If you get a chance to see that program on Television....do not miss it!
Tammy Duckworth is a true hero....hear her talk about her service to the country....her dedication to return to flying duties...one very impressive little Hawaiian girl. I stand in awe of her courage and indomitable spirit....and I think you will to, if you hear her speak. Take a wander up to the Military Aircrew forum and see how that thread is progressing. This little lady soldier and helicopter pilot is welcome at my corner of the bar....I'm buying! Got the following from an Army Guard pilot from Missouri currently serving in Balad Iraq It is Standing Operating Procure for us to fly in pairs. Nov 12 was no exception. After what seemed like a routine flying mission over Baghdad. Dan Milberg was leading his flight of two UH-60 Blackhawk's back to our base at Balad. They were about 20 miles from Balad flying over a large date palm grove. The area North of Baghdad is covered with date palms. Iraq is a huge exporter of dates. They were in a combat spread formation flying about 50 above the ground and just few feet over the tops of the trees. Dan was in the left seat and on the controls. They had no passenger on board. Chalk two had one passenger, a Colonel who had only been in country a couple days. Chalk two saw a puff of smoke rise out of the trees. Then they saw Dan's aircraft start to descend. They attempted to call lead but got no response. There had been an explosion and light flash in Dan's aircraft. The aircraft started to shake. He looked over at his co-pilot and she was unconscious and leaning forward over the controls. All Dan's instruments were out to include electrical power. Part of the instrument panel in front of his co-pilot was gone. Unknown to Dan the co-pilots pedal and cyclic were gone. He did not have communication with either crew chief/door gunners. He continued to fly straight ahead at tree top level. Once they came to an opening in the trees he started to descend and slow down. Trail could not see any damage to the aircraft from their position. There was a single tree in Dan's flight path but he managed to climb over it and land. This was a perfect example of your first priority in an emergency is to continue to fly the aircraft. Unknown to Dan his stabilator was also not functioning making the aircraft more difficult to land. One of the pilots in the trail aircraft continued to attempt communications with Dan, while the other made a Mayday call to the near by FOB (Forward Operating Base), they then called for any aircraft in the area to respond. Two Blackhawk's from our sister company were only a few miles away and were quickly on the scene providing overhead cover. The FOB which had Medevac aircraft had put the aircraft on alert. On the ground Dan had shut down the engines and got out of the aircraft. As he passed the gunner on his side and was instructing him to help he realized he had been injured. He had been hit with small arms fire. Dan rushed to the other side only to discover his other door gunner had a severe leg wound. He helped them out and gave them their weapons to provide security. All were concerned that those who shot them down would soon be there. By now the trail aircraft was landing as close as they could do to the rough ground condition. The crew chief/gunner and the other passenger from the other aircraft rushed over. The ground condition made it very hard to walk much less run. When Dan got to his co-pilot he could see she had one of her legs blown off and the other leg severely damaged and well as her right arm. She appeared to be dead. After seeing the people on the ground struggle trying to move the wounded one of the pilots from the second aircraft also dismounted to help. Dan continued to manage the situation while helping move the wounded. About this time OH-58D's arrived on scene to provide more firepower and security. Once on board the trail aircraft it lifted and headed directly to the FOB at Taji. The injured were provided first aid during the short flight. As they landed the medevac aircraft landed beside them and transferred the three injured. They were flown directly to the hospital in Baghdad. It was later determined the area was not secure enough to recover the aircraft and it was destroyed by attack helicopters. It was later determined through analysis of the shrapnel in the copilot vest that an RPG came through the cockpit. It entered the co-pilots chin bubble and floor, took out the flight controls, instrument panel and exited the green house window above the co-pilot and struck one of the rotor blades. Currently, the door gunner is back with us and flying again, he has bullet in his butt and the doctor's choice to leave it. The other crew chief Gunner is in a military hospital in Missouri. He will eventually fully recover but will require some time. Dan's co-pilot is at Walter Reed. It is truly a miracle she survived. She is lost both legs, one above the knee and the other at the hip. They are hoping to be able to give her two prosthetic legs. She also had several procedures to her right arm. She is made a lot of progress and we have high hopes she will regain 100% use of it. She plans on remaining in the Guard and was promoted to Major on schedule while at Walter Reed. Dan is back to flying and leading combat missions. |
Chopper Chicks!
Would like to see photos of female pilots from your country, who they are and what they do!
From the US: DESIREE HORTON http://bp0.blogger.com/_wD6HJbWF3F4/...icture+056.jpg Desiree Horton with the with the S58T she flew for Aris Helicopters http://bp0.blogger.com/_wD6HJbWF3F4/...icture+032.jpg Desiree flying fire with this Astar on Indy contract Let's see Chopper Chicks from other parts of the world! HM |
Amy Sargent
Saw a 'Surviving the wires environment' video once. Featured chief pilot Amy Sargent & her mossie control Jetranger in the Florida Keys. My eyes flicked from Amy to the kero burner and back. There aren't that many chief pilots that look better than their helicopter.
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It must seem very patronising to the female pilots reading this thread, the number of perfectly well-meaning posts feeling the need to "defend" female pilots, and saying that many of them are actually fairly capable.
The fact that anyone feels the need to say this shows a latent prejudice, if they really think about it. Imagine if we chose any other sector of our working community, and talked about them in this way! 'Nuff said - I'm off to join my sisters in a feminist commune!:) |
it seems this thread is drifting into a female heli pilot pin-up concern.....:ok::ok::ok:
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Good!!!!!! :ok::}
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This H-46 pilot became an astronaut
Speaking of female helicopter pilots ...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ASA_STS114.jpg Wendy B. Lawrence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia She done good. |
My wife at work
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When talking about Desiree, you should also mention Stacy Sheard. Her and Desiree are friends and both featured in 'One Six Right' documentary about Van Nuys.
Silently envious of Blackhawk and Huey flying. Can't paste link to b l o g s p o t.. Do check out pictures on SkyMuffin. b l o g s p o t. com |
If I'm correct the Army Blue Eagles have a female lynx pilot and the Navy Black Cats have a female leading them also this year.
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"It must seem very patronising to the female pilots reading this thread, the number of perfectly well-meaning posts feeling the need to "defend" female pilots, and saying that many of them are actually fairly capable. The fact that anyone feels the need to say this shows a latent prejudice, if they really think about it."
Yuh!, I've thought about it .. and come to the conclusion that its a bunch of cr*p! I belong to the generation which has had to fight for women's equality (especially in the workplace) and which I've been doing since I left the Army. I guess by the next generation topics like this will be meaningless but, for now, I'm gonna continue to celebrate the sisterhood in my profession! Truth is (and I've found this to be so without exception) our sisters enjoy our appreciation of their presence - they still want to feel wanted and accepted and I for one ain't gonna deny 'em that. Now - back to Chopper Chicks! "This seems to be drifting into a female heli pilot pin-up concern!" Damn, that would be cool .. maybe we can even come up with an alternative calendar for 2011! MartinCh; we've got a heap of hot helo chicks in the US and which is why I was suggesting PPRuNers to post details of the sisters from around the world .. maybe a female Chinese Army pilot or a Brazilian Police captain! Anyway, I've included Stacy for you (below). The only contribution so far (with photo posted) is Plank Cap's wife but .. no details. Does she fly for fun, commercially .. does she fly radio, forest fires??? Let's see the best there is from around the world! http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../5/1154542.jpg Bell 430 N901RL of Elite Aviation at Los Alamitos for Van Nuys crewed by Tracy Glatzhofer (left) and Stacy Sheard with the crew indicating their intention to light up no.1 engine http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5...28Small%29.jpg Stacey Sheard over downtown LA in the 430 HM |
Hell Man....
Tis late, and I may regret this post in the morning....but.....Please stop....do you realize how embarrassing you are.... |
...shakes head ....
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose Cheers Whirls |
Originally Posted by Whirlygig
Hell man et al, I don't even know where to begin .... maybe some of you could just sit down and have a little think .To make comments on someone's appearance and then express delight and surprise that that person also has a talent or skill is not big and it's not clever and ceased to be funny 'round about the time I was born.
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"Yuh!, I've thought about it .. and come to the conclusion that its a bunch of cr*p!"
Thank you for your contribution, I also value and respect your input.:yuk: |
Tammy Duckworth
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Kimberly Hampton
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To quote from Cyclic and Collective:
"There is no intention to demean members of either (any?) sex with the use of certain gender related pronouns. Men can fly helicopters just as well as women." |
...can't we just get back to the Chopper Totty pics ;)
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