Identify this Old/Strange Heli
 

Yesterday at about 1430Hrs flying East to West from Direction of Leeds(EGNM) towards either Blackpool(Egnh) or Liverpool(Eggp) I watched a very strange looking Heli, it almost resembled a Garden shed with a very short yet High fixed tail rotor, and a small diameter main rotor I think it had three blades , was powered by what sounded to be a four cylider piston and was getting along nicely at about 50 /60 knots.

It was darkish green or blue and looked in good nick flying at about 350/450 ft, looked very ancient.

Anybody got any ideas, Ive looked in my books but cant find anything that resembles it with the exception of the front of the Horsa Glider from WW11.


PeterR-B

Skeeter?

http://www.britishaircraft.co.uk/pictures/skeeter.jpg ?

A Whirlwind perhaps? Is there a Dragonfly still flying in UK? 3 blades and slow.


(or an R66 Experimental Diesel??)

:E :E

I think that's a new prototype for a flying shower-cabin :D

Was it a normal Army Air Corp Lynx helicopter carrying a very large Pizza???

;)

Thanks but none of these, the cabin was about twice the size of the skeeter, and it was very angular at the front with slab sides, the tail boom seemed short in comparison with the cab.

PeterR-B

Wheels or skids?

Apart from the piston-engine mention, your description sounds a bit like the Westland Wasp.

http://www.futura-dtp.dk/Flysiden/images/Wasp.jpg

Good point on the Wasp, but the piston sound? The Wasp/ Scout is very distinctive. Peter, art thou certain it wuz a piston?

(Dragonfly again??) - Russian??

It had skids, and was most defo a Piston, I was on the telphone outside and my caller asked "what is that bloody racket"

Looking at the picture of the wasp, it had a tail boom about the same sort of height but only about 75% of length, and the cabin ended where the rotor mast is on the wasp, but it had dead straight sides, reminded me of very old type of Van it was so angular!

Peter R-B


Are there any Vintage Choppers still able to fly about?

To summarise the evidence so far:-

Its got skids not wheels (Goodbye Wasp or Skeeter but Scout?)

Piston engine (Goodbye Scout)

A tailboom shorter than a Scout/ Wasp

Very slow

Cab like a Scout/ Wasp

Straight sides like a van

?????:confused: :confused: :confused:



Its the piston sound that gets me. Without it it sounds like a Scout (a lot about) or even an Allouette II

Square van = Dragonfly but none on the CAA register.

Must be Russian if not a Scout.




NB, I see G-INFO has been updated and reformatted on the CAA website.

hi

how many seats?? (seems to me that we have a quiz :D )

any of this??

http://www.helicoptermuseum.co.uk/aircraft/djinn.jpg
Sud Ouest SO1221 Djinn


http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/foto/...1_tomcat_1.jpg
Bell E1 Tomcat


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...illerUH-12.jpg
Hiller UH-12

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...H-32Hornet.jpg
Hiller YH-32 Hornet

Peter, you should check out the Weston Heli Museam site as all the pictures are coming from there!

:oh:

Right O, I will have a check on their site, It wasn't a Dragonfly, Ive sat in one of those at YAM.

Somewhere in the far reaches of my memory I feel it has been on one of the Discovery programs. but , we humans will overcome and give our best, watch this space, or if somone comes up with something else, get it in here!


PeterR-B

Perhaps you should post this in the ATC forum as well.

Several Leeds ATCO's post on there regularly and may well have a solution.:)

Rough Drawing of shape
 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...DrwHeli043.jpg


This is a very rough drawing of the shape of said Heli
PeterR-B

Your drawing looks like a Bolkow 105DB

My first thought at you drawing was a Bolkow 105, but with twin turbs, it can't be. Maybe a Sikorsky R4 (or was it R3)? (If there are any still flying)

What about this?

http://xs15.xs.to/pics/05064/47j.jpg
Bell 47J

Sure it wasn't a garden shed with two lawnmowers?

peter

It was an Allouette 2 in green. I spoke to the pilot yesterday

steve