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Fortyodd 10th Feb 2005 10:28

Peter,
If I was you, I'd patent that drawing of yours before Wastelands steal it and sell it, at vast expense to the taxpayer, to the MOD as the successor to the Lynx!! ;) ;)

Vfrpilotpb 10th Feb 2005 10:29

Steve,

Thank you for pointing me into a direction, I ve got square eyes through going through pictures of Helis, I'll now try to chase a picture of the Allouette,

let you all know later,

Bomber it was.nt a B105 despite my saddo drwing looking like one

PeterR-B

CS-Hover 10th Feb 2005 10:39

Hi

Alouette II , will be this one :)

http://www.team-alouette.ch/gallery/052003/IMG_1318.jpg

almost, your drawing :ok:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...DrwHeli043.jpg

regards

Vfrpilotpb 10th Feb 2005 10:58

Back to the drwing board chaps, if thats the Allouette 2 then it wernt it, this is becomming a time consuming problem, but still today is a reasonably quiet one so I will carry on looking.

There must be some body out in Pprune land who saw/or has seen this Helicopter, it was too early in the day for Queen Victoria to have any effect on my vision, and too late in the day for the effects of Morpheous to still be present, one of my pals heard the engine on the telephone so I know its exists,


BUT WHERE?

PeterR-B

ppheli 10th Feb 2005 11:36

OK, here's an idea

short fuselage = yes
high fixed tail = yes
high tail rotor = yes
three blades = yes
short boom, in comparison = yes
skids from your drawing = no

http://www.vertical-aviation.com/new...edkingdom3.jpg

and there is one of these based in Derbyshire. There are two actually, but he keeps the second one for spares.

And before anyone asks, it's a Vertical Aviation Technologies "Hummingbird" based on an old Sikorsky S-52 with a Chevvy engine to give it some "poke".

rhmaddever 10th Feb 2005 12:08

hmmm
 
If its not this one above from ppheli you must have had beer goggles on!!!


My Suggestions:

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/es...ter/DI27G2.jpg

or

http://www.usswisconsin.org/Pictures...Helicopter.jpg


or perhaps even a simply huey it matches most of the criteria?

http://www.bellhelicopter.textron.co...ue_250x185.jpg

What do you think,

Something else that makes me think is the rotorway 162f,
It is also VERY NOISY - in the annoying sense at lowish altitude,

http://www.aerofiles.com/rotorway-scorp.jpg

or

http://www.pra.org/manuimgs/Rotorway%20Exec.jpg

What do you think?

b.borg 10th Feb 2005 12:19

N-reg ?
 
The following link gives details of ppheli's suspect.
Vertical Aviation Technology

4 seat, kit build helicopter.

None on G-INFO so maybe it is an N-reg ?

helicopter-redeye 10th Feb 2005 12:20

Bolkow BO105 heading for the bay area gas fields

Allouette III

based on the shaped (neither has piston engine)

or the French Super Frelon (also not piston)

Vfrpilotpb 10th Feb 2005 16:06

The size was almost the same as the example from PPHeli, but its shape was more square with straight sides no nice curves.

The little yellow thing before the Rotorway has a very similar angle to the tail rotor ,
in my estimation it was at least a three or four seater...

But was a PISTON not a turb.


PeterR-B

handysnaks 10th Feb 2005 16:19

Wan't one of these was it Peter?
http://www.geocities.com/atwoozle/catalog14.jpg
:rolleyes:

wg13_dummy 10th Feb 2005 16:51

Lol, handy, I used to have one of those as a kid!!

Maybe this search for the 'Heli Grail' would be easier if we listed what it wasnt?

I'll start off with-

It wasnt a Chinook, Sea Knight, Fairey Rotodyne??

Vfrpilotpb 10th Feb 2005 17:36

This must be getting to you folks as well as me, ...


Even JDP has had a hand in showing me the way,... whatever the hell it was, it certainly wasnt new more in the region of 30 or 40 years old, the engine was not well silenced and drowned out speech whilst it flew over

Nice to hear from you JD, still got your crews Charity Pin!!

PeterR-B:ok:

rhmaddever 10th Feb 2005 18:52

summary
 
My summary so far using all evidence...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...addever/h1.jpg

Richard

widgeon 10th Feb 2005 21:30

Cessna SKyhook ??

Vfrpilotpb 11th Feb 2005 07:31

RH,

Now thats somthing like it,... I wonder if its a new Stealth Heli for the local arm of "Prescotts Gestapo, watching out for country homes being occupied by Non Locals"


Still stumped. could be approaching the time to stop looking up!

PeterR-B

zeeoo 11th Feb 2005 08:58

mmm It looks like it's a special new helicopter for "apple" watch and big pepperoni pizza delivery :D :D

Plank Cap 11th Feb 2005 09:53

Piston, skids, high tail rotor, in the UK, slow and ugly. Sounds like a Brantly to me...........

helicopter-redeye 11th Feb 2005 10:00

Brantley, good point. Or therefore a Bell 47H model (Both on the Weston museam site peter).

And the 47H would be noisy... (piston)

Did you get any response from the ATCOs forum. Somebody may remember it as whatever it was would be a bit unusual.

I recall being mistaken for Concorde once by Leeds Approach when flying an R22 towards Menwith Hill. It was the call sign (G-BOYC, which sounds like G-BOAC, a concorde) rather than the speed. Got a good clearence to Coney though, but controller not sure why a concorde would want to land there ...)

Say again s l o w l y 11th Feb 2005 10:08

My guess would definately be a Brantly. Funny little things!

helicopter-redeye 11th Feb 2005 11:26

7 on the G Register.

When trying to search for B47H models on G-INFO I got the following message


An error has occured during the display of this page. The Civil Aviation Authority will be informed of the error.

I assume I'll be prosecuted then ....


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