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Jack S. 11th Feb 2005 11:42

maybe one of these....
Hiller Ten99
http://www.helispot.com/images/02132.jpg
Bristol Type 171 HR.52 Sycamore
http://www.helispot.com/images/03711.jpg
Hiller FH1100
http://www.helispot.com/images/00224.jpg
Saunders-Roe Skeeter
http://www.helispot.com/images/02874.jpg

ppheli 11th Feb 2005 13:22

b.borg
Well, they _have_ been some VAT Hummingbirds on the UK register even if they are now on the N reg. I guess the way the CAA described them was little help to us searching, but check these for the evidence G-BVBD and G-BVBO.

However, I've had another brainwave.... About 6 miles east of Blackpool there is a guy who has recently acquired a UH-1H fresh from a big overhaul in the US and it was due in the UK "early this year" and expected to be reg G-UHIH (see lots more details on this at www.huey.co.uk ). The CAA have not registered that yet, but he may be operating it on an N reg for the time being? So...

Dark Green = yes
skids = yes
noisy = yes
high tail = yes
right location = yes
flat sides = yes
30-40 years old = yes
piston = no

http://www.huey.co.uk/gallery01/77.jpg

chopperpilot47 11th Feb 2005 16:41

Sounds like a Sycamore to me.

Chopperpilot47

paddyboy 11th Feb 2005 17:22

Don't think Sycamore's were ever fitted with skids.

skydriller 11th Feb 2005 19:31

Could it be this.....

Sikorsky Hoverfly Mk1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...overflyMk1.jpg
Though I didnt know there were any flying....

or this.....

Mil Mi-2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ds/MilMi-2.jpg

Regards, SD.

OK, I give up, I cant post photos:mad: :mad:


Done.

Heliport

Vfrpilotpb 11th Feb 2005 20:01

Nearly there
 
Skydriller,

Has posted a picture that is almost the Heli, (the first link)

Shorten the tail boom, give it skids, and bingo, that was so similar to what I saw above me!

SO WHERE IS IT, and WHAT IS IT


PeterRb:ok:

Gaseous 11th Feb 2005 20:04

Peter
I just checked the tracks recorded on my GPS.

Between 1441 and 1452 on the day in question I flew between Haslingdon and Hoghton routing more or less along the M65 in my 29 year old 4 cylinder 3 blade silver and blue Enstrom F28A G-BDKD. 2200 ft over Haslingdon descending to 1250 ft over Pleasington. I was happily pottering along at 50-60 MPH.


Its been called some things but never a flying shed before.
Cheeky sod!

The silver bits are hard to see against a grey sky which could give the impression of a high tail boom.

Ill see if I can post a picture of it.
Try this

Enstrom F-28A
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...stromF-28A.jpg

or this
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/avenuedentistry/G-BDKD1.jpg

and if you're interested, a picture of it when new

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/avenueden...976G-BDKD1.jpg

Hilico 11th Feb 2005 21:32

S*d me Gaseous - do you give advanced courses in confined area landings?

Gaseous 11th Feb 2005 21:36

Yep. Done it 500 odd times. In all conditions. Eyes closed and elbows in is the preferred technique. (Actually, its not as tight as it looks)

wg13_dummy 11th Feb 2005 22:06

Confined area? You could get a Sqn of Lynx in there!;) :E

Nice cab Gas all the same.

Dave_Jackson 11th Feb 2005 23:58

Could skydriller's first photo be ..........

Sikorsky R-4 (VS-316A)
http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/foto/sik_r-4.jpg

Could Vfrpilotpb's be a modified version of this?

SilsoeSid 12th Feb 2005 02:32

"It almost resembled a Garden shed with a very short yet High fixed tail rotor, and a small diameter main rotor I think it had three blades , was powered by what sounded to be a four cylider piston and was getting along nicely at about 50 /60 knots.

It was darkish green or blue (silhouetted) and looked in good nick flying at about 350/450 ft, looked very ancient."

I believe this is what you are looking for VFR pilot.

According to 'Variety', they are now in production of another Thomas the Tank Engine film, this time involving Harold.

Harold was travelling "towards either Blackpool(Egnh) or Liverpool(Eggp)", as this is the area in which the coastal scenes will be filmed.


http://store1.yimg.com/I/kindertrains_1831_33227352

rhmaddever 12th Feb 2005 08:17

hmmm
 
VFR

Did you ever consider it could be a homebuild and that we may never find it ....God help us!

RHM

MightyGem 13th Feb 2005 10:22

Ahh Silsoe, it's been quiet lately. Been busy down your neck of the woods??

Vfrpilotpb 13th Feb 2005 13:02

Gas,

I think your Enstrom is brilliant, and I certainly would not call that a Shed, I would love to own one that looked as nice, but sadly it isn't the one I saw, the one that Dave Jackson has offered is very near to it, but it had skids not wheels and the tailboom was shorter.

Does landing in your garden not blow hell out of the plants!


RHM, yes I have thought of that but it seemed such a regular "Old Fashioned Shape" if you see what I mean that I thought it would be easy to track down, seems quiet possibly a new Stealth type. with my background on engines I know it was a Piston and 4 cylinders at that!

PeterR-B

SilsoeSid 13th Feb 2005 15:06

Perhaps this;

It almost resembled a Garden shed with a very short yet High fixed tail rotor, (angular illusion!), and a small diameter main rotor I think it had three blades , was powered by what sounded to be a four cylider piston and was getting along nicely at about 50 /60 knots.

It was darkish green or blue and looked in good nick flying at about 350/450 ft, looked very ancient."


http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/~bat/GA/OT-...licopter-1.jpg

Filming starts soon for the forthcoming Captain Scarlet film. :)



WG-13;

"Confined area? You could get a Sqn of Lynx in there!"

The last Lynx Squadron I was in was very short of Lynx ! Despite this,we also had to share them with the other Squadron! :ok:


Mighty Gem;
It was that time of year!
:{

Vfrpilotpb 15th Feb 2005 08:24

I feel that my task is almost impossible, the picture that DJ has posted is so similar to the front of the Heli I saw, but the tail rotor was shorter, and ended by being elevated to the point of axis for the t/r, but there didn't appear to be any ladder structures free from skinning, I have used the telephone also to ask many of my farming pals (who I assume this Heli would have flown over) who alway look up upon hearing any heli, thinking the Tea Blagger is here aagin! only to draw a blank non have seen it, so I am stumped for where to go from here.

All I would like to say is thank you all for your efforts, If, and when I do find this heli and can identify it I will post the info on the best Forum in the Flying World - Pprune/Rotorheads

my regards

PeterR-B Vfr

md 600 driver 16th Feb 2005 16:58

i read today that a switzer 333 has been bought by total for pipeline works to be based nr sheffield . that aircraft looks like a shed with a stubby tail , but it is a turbine

peter your eyes may be ok but how is your hearing


steve

SilsoeSid 16th Feb 2005 17:44

MD 600,

http://www.planepix.com/resources/ph..._MRR471.md.jpg

Schweitzer 333

Wasn't this type modified to be an UAV working off ships?

http://www.naval-technology.com/proj...irescout_3.jpg


firescout

The Fire Scout air vehicle is based on the Schweitzer 330 commercial lightweight manned utility helicopter.

(guess I answered my own question.)

helicopter-redeye 16th Feb 2005 20:38

It hath not a piston engine ...

(apart from that, def. a flying shed)

:ok:


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