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anjouan 8th Aug 2004 17:31

Let's see now. Police pilot in UK averaging maybe £42,000 a year gross. Knock off 30% for tax and National Insurance contributions. Leaves about £28,000 for working in horrible weather in one of the more expensive countries in Europe.

Can people really earn that little for flying commercially?

Thomas coupling 8th Aug 2004 22:19

Touche anjouan!

I must admit that I was referring to directly employed pilots who also had pensions/loss of licence/health care/overtime/considerable annual leave/and a client that wouldn't go bust.....as the basis for my argument.

Not forgetting that the UK has scenery / a diverse climate (30 degrees today!) / human rights:ooh:

And is the healthiest community in the EU, I believe :E

SASless 8th Aug 2004 22:46

TC....are we being a bit prejudiced here....North Yorkshire is nice...The West Country is attractive...loved Scotland....the beer is better than American brands...but then the Germans have the Alps, real beer, there is Italy...Italian wine and the female of the species....for winter and indoor sports Scandinavia leads the list.....all certainly better than living in Dubai. Dubai must be compared to Saudi....Yemen...Abu Dhabi...Bahrain....Iran....Iraq....and Kuwait....and probably is the best of all those places but certainly no garden spot by western standards.

go vertical 21st Aug 2004 11:56

FAA ATPL(H) in the Emirates?
 
Is it possible to work with the FAA ATPL(H) in the Emirates or is there a License Conversion necessary?

Thanks!!!

Rotorbike 21st Aug 2004 13:43

In the Emirates so that you can work immediately a two month validation of your foreign ATPL(H) is given. During this time you would need to do the air law exam and a medical and then they will issue you a licence.

Rotaree_taree.. 6th Nov 2004 14:34

Horizon (Al Ain) clearout
 
The word is that the senior instructional staff at Horizon have suffered a bit of a clearout recently - anyone have any good rumours to pass on about this? I believe some people may have lost jobs before they'd even arrived to take up their posts :(

Banzai-blades 6th Nov 2004 15:06

Confirmed that CI shown the door.

New man cd all new appointments.

SiClick 9th Nov 2004 17:38

Not quite so
General Manager shown the door, Deputy GM has effectively taken over, many not confident about the new management and some pilots have resigned.
Horizon however will go on, to much has been invested in the project.

Rotaree_taree.. 9th Nov 2004 21:37

Si,

A little bird (OK, a quick look through your previous posts) indicates that you might be one of those seeking new employment elsewhere. Did you find out what you needed from Bond? Perhaps you could share your knowledge of what happened at Horizon, might help others thinking of heading that way to work.

Phoenix Rising 9th Nov 2004 22:25

Sounds like things are always unsettled there. Didnt PHS from OZ get screwed by Horizon as well.

:E

206av8 10th Nov 2004 10:19

The problem is the DGM, a local who cannot be trusted. He screwed the GM because he wanted to be the boss. He is rumoured to be cancelling leave, changing the agreed interpretation of contracts, ie leave allowance etc. Lots of the experienced guys are looking for alternative employment.
The DGM was also involved in the moving of goalposts with PHS.

SiClick 10th Nov 2004 10:29

Hi Rotaree
Yes I am indeed one of those considering my options, and Bond were amongst a few I approached, but as I said earlier whilst Horizon is not the worlds happiest place, its not going away, and it has a need for experienced pilots. There is bound to be some scaremongering about the management changes, and there will be some turnover amongst the pilots but at the end of the day Horizon will be here, and so will at least 20 instructors.

Cheesaburger 13th Nov 2004 08:47

A little bird tells me that the finace department there is very slow in paying, and the admin are worse than useless. It doesn't seem a very happy work place over there, I am surprised that anyone is staying.

206av8 15th Nov 2004 14:01

I heard there was an incident involving senior management booking a room in a hotel under an employee's name to entertain his ladies of the night, it all went wrong apparently when the next morning the ladies cleared out the room. Rumour has it that it all got kept quiet as the management involved was a local. Anyone over there know any more?

Cheesaburger 15th Nov 2004 20:18

Well Cyclick
you seem to be, or have been over there, is there any truth in what 206av8 ia saying?
Come on, we'd all love to know.

kerosene dreams 7th Dec 2004 16:09

Abu Dhabi Aviation....info?
 
Just wondering if anyone on here works on knows some one at ADA.
Curious as to their hiring mins. Captains mins are listed on their website but no co-pilots. Heard it fluctuates depending their need. Thanks in advance!:ok:

Rotorbike 7th Dec 2004 16:37

Abu Dhabi Aviation have never had a non local co-pilot.

So unless you have a passport from the United Arab Emirates hidden you are unfortunately out of luck.

Regards
Rotorbike

Staticdroop 8th Dec 2004 08:00

Same question but for Gulf Helicopters? anybody know the requirements?
Ta in advance.

212man 8th Dec 2004 08:47

If you type www.gulfhelicopters.com into your address bar and then follow the link 'join us' you get the following info:

Pilot

Offshore Experience.
Current ICAO ATPL(H) with IR.
Valid Class 1 Medical.
Current Instrument Rating.
2500 hours Helicopter (1500 PIC).
Min 100 hrs B412/212.

Staticdroop 8th Dec 2004 09:11

Gulf Helicopters
 
Sorry for bringing this up for what is the umpteenth time.
I am however looking for up to date information on Gulf helicopters, am looking to spread my wings and work in the sun for a while and get some offshore experience.
Anybody who works for or has worked for the company i'd appreciate any feed back on the usual questions particularly on the safety aspect within the country, have heard it is a very stable progressive society.


Ta in advance for all the help.


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