Iranian president's helicopter involved in a hard landing (aka crash)
"The Kremlin on Monday published a statement from Putin expressing his "deepest condolences" to Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Raisi made "an invaluable personal contribution to the development of good neighborly relations between our countries and made great efforts to bring them to the level of strategic partnership," he said.
"I had the opportunity to meet Seyed Ebrahim Raisi several times, and I will forever retain the fondest memory of this wonderful man," Putin added."
That's nice to see. One dangerous bullsh*t artist praising another.
Raisi made "an invaluable personal contribution to the development of good neighborly relations between our countries and made great efforts to bring them to the level of strategic partnership," he said.
"I had the opportunity to meet Seyed Ebrahim Raisi several times, and I will forever retain the fondest memory of this wonderful man," Putin added."
That's nice to see. One dangerous bullsh*t artist praising another.
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"The Kremlin on Monday published a statement from Putin expressing his "deepest condolences" to Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Raisi made "an invaluable personal contribution to the development of good neighborly relations between our countries and made great efforts to bring them to the level of strategic partnership," he said.
"I had the opportunity to meet Seyed Ebrahim Raisi several times, and I will forever retain the fondest memory of this wonderful man," Putin added."
That's nice to see. One dangerous bullsh*t artist praising another.
Raisi made "an invaluable personal contribution to the development of good neighborly relations between our countries and made great efforts to bring them to the level of strategic partnership," he said.
"I had the opportunity to meet Seyed Ebrahim Raisi several times, and I will forever retain the fondest memory of this wonderful man," Putin added."
That's nice to see. One dangerous bullsh*t artist praising another.
“The EU expresses its sincere condolences for the death of President Raisi and Foreign Minister Abdollahian, as well as other members of their delegation and crew in a helicopter accident. Our thoughts go to the families.“
The Butcher of Tehran was responsible for tens of thousands of executions of political prisoners and women. Not sure the condolences were necessary here.
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Heads of State are in their own little club.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Ohh… wait - it is the Great Satan’s fault after all.
Because no one else in the world builds helicopters…..
Here we go.
The death of President Raisi "will be added to the list of US crimes against Iran," former Iranian FM Mohammad Javad Zarif said.
“One of the main culprits of yesterday’s tragedy is the United States, which ... embargoed the sale of aircraft and aviation parts to Iran and does not allow the people of Iran to enjoy good aviation facilities,” Zarif said. “These will be recorded in the list of US crimes against the Iranian people.”
Yes, put your leaders in a rattling old box in extremely bad weather and blame the US afterwards.
The bastards can enrich uranium for nuclear bombs, and produce kamikaze drones, but can’t produce their own parts for their planes.
Because no one else in the world builds helicopters…..
Here we go.
The death of President Raisi "will be added to the list of US crimes against Iran," former Iranian FM Mohammad Javad Zarif said.
“One of the main culprits of yesterday’s tragedy is the United States, which ... embargoed the sale of aircraft and aviation parts to Iran and does not allow the people of Iran to enjoy good aviation facilities,” Zarif said. “These will be recorded in the list of US crimes against the Iranian people.”
Yes, put your leaders in a rattling old box in extremely bad weather and blame the US afterwards.
The bastards can enrich uranium for nuclear bombs, and produce kamikaze drones, but can’t produce their own parts for their planes.
“One of the main culprits of yesterday’s tragedy is the United States, which ... embargoed the sale of aircraft and aviation parts to Iran and does not allow the people of Iran to enjoy good aviation facilities,” Zarif said. “These will be recorded in the list of US crimes against the Iranian people.”
If, as they believe, "everything is god's will" then surely it was sanctioned by the same ?
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Wait, aren't those helicopters Agusta Bell ones?
From a conversation on the Rotor Heads forum (summarized):
As to more unhelpful rhetoric, the Telegraph article offers this:
Four words for you, Mr Former Ambassador: STFU.
From a conversation on the Rotor Heads forum (summarized):
Torquetalk : Curious as to why they fly US product with the challenges sanctions must pose.
The Sultan: They are Agusta-Bell's from Italy.
Torquetalk : That was my assumption, but doesn't address the PT-6 issue
The Sultan: As the PT6 is of Canadian origin and manufacturing that may not be an issue like a U.S. sourced engine.
The Sultan: They are Agusta-Bell's from Italy.
Torquetalk : That was my assumption, but doesn't address the PT-6 issue
The Sultan: As the PT6 is of Canadian origin and manufacturing that may not be an issue like a U.S. sourced engine.
The West must strike now, and collapse the Iranian regime
The West must strike now, and collapse the Iranian regime
Story by Mark Wallace, Kasra Aarabi | • 1h • 4 min read
{snip, get down to the unhelpful bit}
This is an opening that should be exploited. We must support the Iranian people’s democratic ambitions to bring an end to a regime that kills its own people, seeks to eradicate the world’s only Jewish state, and exports terror around the world.
Instead of offering condolences to the regime – as EU officials have shamelessly done – the West should be focusing on the Iranian people in its public diplomacy. It should be amplifying the calls of the Iranian people for an end to the Islamic Republic. Simultaneously, the U.S. government and its allies should consider covert operations – both cyber and kinetic – to exacerbate the divisions within the regime’s elite and embolden the Iranian people against the regime.
Make no mistake: the collapse of the Islamic Republic will be the single most liberating event for the Iranian people, the Middle East and global security.
=============================
Ambassador Mark D. Wallace is the CEO of United Against Nuclear Iran and a former US Ambassador to the United Nations
Kasra Aarabi is Director of IRGC Research at United Against Nuclear Iran
{snip, get down to the unhelpful bit}
This is an opening that should be exploited. We must support the Iranian people’s democratic ambitions to bring an end to a regime that kills its own people, seeks to eradicate the world’s only Jewish state, and exports terror around the world.
Instead of offering condolences to the regime – as EU officials have shamelessly done – the West should be focusing on the Iranian people in its public diplomacy. It should be amplifying the calls of the Iranian people for an end to the Islamic Republic. Simultaneously, the U.S. government and its allies should consider covert operations – both cyber and kinetic – to exacerbate the divisions within the regime’s elite and embolden the Iranian people against the regime.
Make no mistake: the collapse of the Islamic Republic will be the single most liberating event for the Iranian people, the Middle East and global security.
=============================
Ambassador Mark D. Wallace is the CEO of United Against Nuclear Iran and a former US Ambassador to the United Nations
Kasra Aarabi is Director of IRGC Research at United Against Nuclear Iran
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I'm sure the BOI, or whatever the equivalent is, will be as open and transparent as the one about that "unfortunate accident " in Russia..."aircraft took off, then crashed, case closed ".
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"hard" landing ?
Earlier today, the press was saying one of the pax had survived for an hour. If he had a phone and was trying to raise the alarm, he would use the Farsi for "crash" which might translate out to "hard landing" in English ?
Earlier today, the press was saying one of the pax had survived for an hour. If he had a phone and was trying to raise the alarm, he would use the Farsi for "crash" which might translate out to "hard landing" in English ?
Works for me. Cell reception up in the mountains can be dicey, so it may also have been a hard-to-understand transmission...
"Crash' or 'hard landing' whatever. Sounds to me like no more than pointless obfuscation and unwillingness to be specific for fear of admitting the obvious.
As in 'the situation has developed not necessarily to our advantage' instead of 'we've been trashed'. (Hirohito, 1945)
There are even some of that mindset on this forum...
As in 'the situation has developed not necessarily to our advantage' instead of 'we've been trashed'. (Hirohito, 1945)
There are even some of that mindset on this forum...
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Mechanical failure ! That's hilarious!
Brutal amoral dictatorial bigwig on board, subservient dupes flying, atrocious weather, terrain, unbreakable schedule - yet people still witter on about mechanical failure.
I ask you!
Good riddance to VERY bad rubbish. Insh'allah.
Brutal amoral dictatorial bigwig on board, subservient dupes flying, atrocious weather, terrain, unbreakable schedule - yet people still witter on about mechanical failure.
I ask you!
Good riddance to VERY bad rubbish. Insh'allah.
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Yeah it is bit baffling why Iran wouldn't have Russian made choppers. But then again, they may be more unreliable than 1970 Bells. The Iranian government can only blame themselves for this.
As it was the president and a minister plus 3 crew , 2 assistants and 2 bodyguards they had a fixed wing follow it . But being Iran we will probably never get the truth .
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I never wish harm on anyone, but the odd individuals deserve what they get.
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As a way to underscore that observation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOCn9epX...pg&name=medium
Source:
On the Death of Iranian President Raisi and Others in a Helicopter Crash - United States Department of State
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOCn9epX...pg&name=medium
Source:
On the Death of Iranian President Raisi and Others in a Helicopter Crash - United States Department of State
I only have access to on line translation software but the two phrases look different but I am not in a position to comment beyond that.