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Old 19th May 2024, 13:16
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Iranian president's helicopter involved in a hard landing (aka crash)

Sky Breaking news about the Iranian presidents helicopter involved in a hard landing.

https://news.sky.com/story/helicopte...media-13139305
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Never attribute to conspiracy that which can be adequately explained by incompetence.
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Wasn't this an episode of Homeland?
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Old 19th May 2024, 16:01
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"Sixteen rescue teams trying to reach Iran's president after helicopter accident"

Beginning to look more like one of those "smoking crater" hard landings than one of those "that'll buff right out" ones
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Sky reporting suggests several helicopters in the convoy. I take it the terrain and weather was beyond stopping and helping. Did they even know he was missing until he didn't arrive?

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Old 19th May 2024, 16:15
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From the BBC - reported that Foreign Minister also on board

What we know so far

A helicopter carrying President Ebrahim Raisi has had to make a "hard landing" after it got in difficulties, state media reports.

The details of what happened remain unclear, but here's a look at what we know so far:
  • According to local media, Raisi was heading to the city of Tabriz, in the north west of Iran, after returning from the border with Azerbaijan, where he opened the Qiz Qalasi and Khodaafarin dams
  • The helicopter was one of three travelling in a convoy
  • Iran's interior minister says rescuers are still trying to reach the site, but their efforts are being hampered by poor weather conditions
  • A reporter with Fars news agency says visibility in the mountainous and wooded area was down to only about five metres. The area is about 50km to the north of Tabriz
  • Ahmad Alirezabeigi, an Iranian MP for the city of Tabriz, says that emergency rescue workers have yet to find the location of the helicopter carrying the president
  • He says two other two helicopters in the convoy landed safely
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Not just the weather that seems rather murky. Has he upset Mr Putrid recently?
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The information released can't be relied on. If I was a betting man I would put a couple of quid on Mosad having a hand in whatever has happened. It will be really interesting to find out the actual circumstances when "the fog" clears.

Even more interesting is how the Supreme Leader reacts.
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Old 19th May 2024, 17:04
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
Thats what we're being told. As I said it'll be interesting tÚ see what the facts are.

Have a look at the TV pictures
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I’m not sure what worth “live reporting” has given that all it shows is fog.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-...rigin=BBCS_BBC
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Setting aside the political comments above, it does look like a repeat of the Polish President accident flight, where the leader, plus their officials, can think that their agreed schedule trumps normal aviation safety standards, and the crew end up carrying on regardless.
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Originally Posted by nomorehelosforme
just another example of peer pressure to fly in s***e weather with an unfortunate outcome for the pilots, .
Quite. I was present when a fairly junior pilot on 230 Sqn, when pressed to press on, told an Air Commodore, "With respect Sir, I am the captain of this aircraft, and I will decide when the weather is ok." Nice one.

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Presumably it is dark now and, in the apparent absence of detailed location data, nothing can be done until first light tomorrow.
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412?

Was this a Bell 412? If so how are they able to keep this type serviceable?
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412!

I've often wondered how they keep their F-14s going...
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Could be a replay of the Kobe Bryant crash. Would be interesting to hear from the other two helicopter pilots, provided they are allowed to tell the facts.
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Originally Posted by dalgetty
I've often wondered how they keep their F-14s going...
Perhaps they are cleverer than propaganda suggests?
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Perhaps they are cleverer than propaganda suggests?
You donít need to be particularly clever to reverse engineer spare parts. Whether they will be of equal quality to genuine parts is another question.
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Apparently the demise has been confirmed, military being deployed onto the streets of Tehran to control the inevitable anger and demonstrations.
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Originally Posted by PC767
They did not.

But, two of three aircraft managed the weather to return safely home. The third just happened to contain two high profile people and did not make it. There has to be a question that this 'hard landing' was not necessarily weather related, but sabotage/third party intent related.
Doubt it.
The Mossad with a fog machine was a joke obviously.
If this was IMC with mountain obscuration you need some serious equipment that they likely didnít have. Two got lucky and one didnít.
With three heloís you donít fly the exact same track at the exact same time. They were probably spaced out a couple minutes or miles.
That can make a big difference in changing weather conditions.
Theyíre probably looking at a CFIT incident.
Maybe even tried a precautionary landing due to weather and got there a little bit earlier then anticipated.
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Theyíre probably looking at a CFIT incident.
In a helicopter without the latest and greatest gizmos chances are the C was missing in CFIT.
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