New Vuichard auto !!! Revolutionary !!
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New Vuichard auto !!! Revolutionary !!
I see Vuichard not only has a revolutionary way to get out of vortex … he now has groundbreaking technique for autos . You hold a less severe flair until you slow down then you forward cyclic and raise collective . Absolute Genius !!!!!
Totally different to what us morons have been doing for ( 45 yrs in my case ) years !!!
Totally different to what us morons have been doing for ( 45 yrs in my case ) years !!!
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I see Vuichard not only has a revolutionary way to get out of vortex … he now has groundbreaking technique for autos . You hold a less severe flair until you slow down then you forward cyclic and raise collective . Absolute Genius !!!!!
Totally different to what us morons have been doing for ( 45 yrs in my case ) years !!!
Totally different to what us morons have been doing for ( 45 yrs in my case ) years !!!
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From: Australia
The technique from what I can see in the cockpit revolves around pre-loading the disk. This means that you do not need to flare as much and in theory would help with "ground rush" and slowing down of the flare, giving pilot the ability to react better. Our ol' boy got his chest so puffed up from his Vortex Ring State recovery technique he now has to claim this vanilla af autoration as his own
We have been pre-loading for decades without having the need to plaster our names on these techniques. Wait til he discovers that you can Autorotate 5-10Kt above the recommended speed and slow the sink rate by pre-flaring raising the rotor RPM and then combining it with this "new revolutionary technique" to put the flare into super slow motion. Quickly becoming Kanye West of the rotary world; looking forward to the new revolutionary technique to getting in and out of the cockpit next. Do we know if there is there a Vuichard recovery technique of getting your head out of your ass; asking for a Swiss friend
We have been pre-loading for decades without having the need to plaster our names on these techniques. Wait til he discovers that you can Autorotate 5-10Kt above the recommended speed and slow the sink rate by pre-flaring raising the rotor RPM and then combining it with this "new revolutionary technique" to put the flare into super slow motion. Quickly becoming Kanye West of the rotary world; looking forward to the new revolutionary technique to getting in and out of the cockpit next. Do we know if there is there a Vuichard recovery technique of getting your head out of your ass; asking for a Swiss friend
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He is an absolute chancer.
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travelling snake oil salesman
That autorotation is just that. An autorotation. Nothing revolutionary here. We have all done them like that at one point or another.
The French Aviation Research institute has won a contract to test the viability of the Vuichard thing. That is the first time this manoeuvre is tested in a controlled way.
They did some tests on VRS in the early 2000's and in the published paper you see the flapping amplitude is erratic and about double that of the normal flight regime on a three-bladed helicopter. Might be more on a two-bladed.
Now when you push the stick forward, the blades lift in the back. When you go sideways, the blades are much closer to the tail boom and the tail boom is coming towards the disk, due to the horizontal stabiliser and because you are going straight down. And with the CG forward with two blokes in front, one has the nose hanging down anyway. I am really not comfortable with this idea.
There was that accident in Texas(?) where two people died during a training flight that AFAIK was scheduled to be a VRS training. If the NTSB finds evidence that the Vuichard thing was responsible for that and the French can show that one should not do that, Vuichard, Robinson and Tim Tucker will be in a world of hurt. Imagine, Robinson teaches a manoeuvre that wasn't cleared in a controlled flight test environment. Boy the lawyers will dive on them like vultures on a carcass.
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The French Aviation Research institute has won a contract to test the viability of the Vuichard thing
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There was that accident in Texas(?) where two people died during a training flight that AFAIK was scheduled to be a VRS training. If the NTSB finds evidence that the Vuichard thing was responsible for that and the French can show that one should not do that, Vuichard, Robinson and Tim Tucker will be in a world of hurt. Imagine, Robinson teaches a manoeuvre that wasn't cleared in a controlled flight test environment. Boy the lawyers will dive on them like vultures on a carcass.
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Bell 429 in 2022
Probable Cause: The pilots’ inappropriate flight control inputs while in vortex ring state, which resulted in main rotor blade contact with the tail boom and a subsequent in-flight breakup. Also causal was the flight instructor’s inadequate monitoring of the flight.
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/277677
Probable Cause: The pilots’ inappropriate flight control inputs while in vortex ring state, which resulted in main rotor blade contact with the tail boom and a subsequent in-flight breakup. Also causal was the flight instructor’s inadequate monitoring of the flight.
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/277677
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From: Australia
Breaking news, new landing technique developed by Liechtenstein Pilot Wuichard.
Experts have said it will revolutionise aviation, the technique has been patented and named after said pilot.
I couldn’t help myself sorry if you’re watching Wuichard it’s just a bit of banter.
Experts have said it will revolutionise aviation, the technique has been patented and named after said pilot.
I couldn’t help myself sorry if you’re watching Wuichard it’s just a bit of banter.
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From: Den Haag
I see the 380K Euros research project EASA sponsored, into the VRS recovery technique, is having its outcomes "disseminated" at European Rotors in November (Amsterdam)
https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/newsro...mination-event
https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/newsro...mination-event
