Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Rotorheads
Reload this Page >

Bristow S92 down west of Bergen Norway

Wikiposts
Search
Rotorheads A haven for helicopter professionals to discuss the things that affect them

Bristow S92 down west of Bergen Norway

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 12:40
  #41 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: St. John's, Newfoundland
Age: 54
Posts: 178
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Why was the EGPWS/FLIR blurred out in the photos, were they possibly testing a new variant?
maxwelg2 is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 13:00
  #42 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,747
Received 152 Likes on 76 Posts
Originally Posted by rrekn
Also interesting that the floats didn't deploy...
Gear down, Sliding door closed, no float deployment, pilots window and 2 emergency exits jettisoned on the port side, only the aft emerg. exit jettisoned on the starboard. Interesting indeed.

Sad that there was a tragic loss of life. RIP
albatross is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 13:31
  #43 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Den Haag
Age: 57
Posts: 6,256
Received 332 Likes on 185 Posts
Originally Posted by maxwelg2
Why was the EGPWS/FLIR blurred out in the photos, were they possibly testing a new variant?
Nothing to do with EGPWS (that’s GPS and radar-altimeter based) but an interesting observation about the FLIR!
212man is online now  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 13:32
  #44 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Den Haag
Age: 57
Posts: 6,256
Received 332 Likes on 185 Posts
Originally Posted by albatross
Gear down, Sliding door closed, no float deployment, pilots window and 2 emergency exits jettisoned on the port side, only the aft emerg. exit jettisoned on the starboard. Interesting indeed.

Sad that there was a tragic loss of life. RIP
Starboard door exit also jettisoned I think.
212man is online now  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 13:38
  #45 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Australia
Age: 60
Posts: 341
Received 15 Likes on 12 Posts
Originally Posted by maxwelg2
Why was the EGPWS/FLIR blurred out in the photos, were they possibly testing a new variant?
FLIR is ITAR, blocking it out just keeps various organisation in the US happy .
Blackhawk9 is offline  
The following users liked this post:
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 14:36
  #46 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Den Haag
Age: 57
Posts: 6,256
Received 332 Likes on 185 Posts
Originally Posted by Blackhawk9
FLIR is ITAR, blocking it out just keeps various organisation in the US happy .
I was going to suggest that might be a reason, but there are so many photos in the public domain (including the LM website) that I discounted it!
212man is online now  
The following users liked this post:
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 14:39
  #47 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Den Haag
Age: 57
Posts: 6,256
Received 332 Likes on 185 Posts

It looks to me like the silhouette of the landing gear is visible, top left, so maybe it came off in recovery?
212man is online now  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 15:50
  #48 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 514
Received 21 Likes on 14 Posts
Originally Posted by 212man

It looks to me like the silhouette of the landing gear is visible, top left, so maybe it came off in recovery?
Good obs!
helicrazi is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 15:55
  #49 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 66
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Zoom in and see those tail blades have some big lengthwise cracks in them. They were probably spinning hard to do that damage.
OnePerRev is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 16:35
  #50 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Den Haag
Age: 57
Posts: 6,256
Received 332 Likes on 185 Posts
Originally Posted by helicrazi
Good obs!
I could not equate/reconcile the lack of damage to the airframe, with anything that would rip the gear off on impact, plus I could not see how the nose gear could be extended in isolation. Seems more plausible it was recovery damage - but pure speculation on my part.
212man is online now  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 17:04
  #51 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,747
Received 152 Likes on 76 Posts
Originally Posted by 212man
Starboard door exit also jettisoned I think.
It appears so.
In any case … No matter the cause.. I think. a big …”Thank. Gawd for Dunker training” is probably in order.
albatross is offline  
The following 2 users liked this post by albatross:
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 17:19
  #52 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,747
Received 152 Likes on 76 Posts
Originally Posted by 212man
I could not equate/reconcile the lack of damage to the airframe, with anything that would rip the gear off on impact, plus I could not see how the nose gear could be extended in isolation. Seems more plausible it was recovery damage - but pure speculation on my part.
Good catch …I didn’t notice that the aft gear is not down.

albatross is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 17:29
  #53 (permalink)  
NOQ
 
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: NA
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What caused the damage in the tail area? And what could be the reason the floaters did not activate?
NOQ is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 17:32
  #54 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,747
Received 152 Likes on 76 Posts
Originally Posted by jazzypjs
No direct link to the incident but an emergency AD has been issued by the FAA outlining immediate inspection requirements for certain GE engines, including CT7-8"s
FAA AD 2014-05-51
2014? Isn’t that the year of issue?
There is an AD 2024-05-51 issued Feb 16 2024 that concerns P+W PT6 engines.
I can not find an EAD 2014-05-51
Do you have a link?
albatross is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 17:57
  #55 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Devon
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by albatross
2014? Isn’t that the year of issue?
There is an AD 2024-05-51 issued Feb 16 2024 that concerns P+W PT6 engines.
I can not find an EAD 2014-05-51
Do you have a link?
Sorry, typo. It is US-2024-05-51 though. Won't let me post a link as I'm a new account holder, if you go to the Easa AD tool, it's the newest published AD.
jazzypjs is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 18:11
  #56 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: After all, what’s more important than proving to someone on the internet that they’re wrong? - Manson
Posts: 1,847
Received 56 Likes on 37 Posts
Originally Posted by albatross
2014? Isn’t that the year of issue?
There is an AD 2024-05-51 issued Feb 16 2024 that concerns P+W PT6 engines.
I can not find an EAD 2014-05-51
Do you have a link?
FAA EAD #: 2024-05-51 EASA EAD US 2024-05-51
RVDT is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 18:30
  #57 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Southern United States
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
Received 60 Likes on 30 Posts
Reading the AD makes me wonder if I’ll see a US Army ASAM of SOF for the same issue when I get back into work this week..

FltMech
60FltMech is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 19:06
  #58 (permalink)  

Avoid imitations
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Wandering the FIR and cyberspace often at highly unsociable times
Posts: 14,573
Received 422 Likes on 222 Posts
There’s a big contrast between the major damage to the main rotor blades and little or none to the tail rotor.
ShyTorque is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 19:33
  #59 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Inverness-shire, Ross-shire
Posts: 1,460
Received 23 Likes on 17 Posts
Originally Posted by 212man

It looks to me like the silhouette of the landing gear is visible, top left, so maybe it came off in recovery?


Starboard undercarriage leg visible in this lift from the water. The label on the front of the leg is a positive identifier as is the upper link.
jimf671 is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2024, 20:15
  #60 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,747
Received 152 Likes on 76 Posts
Originally Posted by RVDT
FAA EAD #: 2024-05-51 EASA EAD US 2024-05-51
Got it now.Thank you very much.
My BAD ……the P+W PT6 AD is 2024-04-51 not 05-51
Note to self “Drink Morning Coffee and allow it to take desired effect upon brain function before posting!”

Last edited by albatross; 2nd Mar 2024 at 20:28.
albatross is offline  
The following users liked this post:


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.