Helicopter Jobs 2023
Tightgit
"The I.R. in the police role is dangerous,"
Brutal. You would have made a great senior Officer in the RFC during the first world war. 'We can't give the men parachutes, they might bale out at the first sign of conflict"!
(Actually not a true reason they didn't have parachutes but who doesn't like a bit of fake history to spice things up).
Anyway, an IR in the police role is NOT dangerous.
An IR in the police role without adequate training, a suitable policy for flight in IMC and the correct aircraft might be considered dangerous, but having an IR in the police role is most definitely not dangerous.
That is not to say that it should be a pre-requisite for police flying, not having one can be mitigated for by policy and procedures but we're well into the 21st century and there are far more capable aircraft (and pilots) in the fleet now, than there were back in the growth period of police aviation in the 90's. So if the role can be enhanced operationally or made safer by the use of Instrument qualified pilots and aircraft then within sensible (whatever they are), budgetary constraints, that ought to be a target.
Brutal. You would have made a great senior Officer in the RFC during the first world war. 'We can't give the men parachutes, they might bale out at the first sign of conflict"!
(Actually not a true reason they didn't have parachutes but who doesn't like a bit of fake history to spice things up).
Anyway, an IR in the police role is NOT dangerous.
An IR in the police role without adequate training, a suitable policy for flight in IMC and the correct aircraft might be considered dangerous, but having an IR in the police role is most definitely not dangerous.
That is not to say that it should be a pre-requisite for police flying, not having one can be mitigated for by policy and procedures but we're well into the 21st century and there are far more capable aircraft (and pilots) in the fleet now, than there were back in the growth period of police aviation in the 90's. So if the role can be enhanced operationally or made safer by the use of Instrument qualified pilots and aircraft then within sensible (whatever they are), budgetary constraints, that ought to be a target.
But there are a reasonable number of purely civilian trained pilots flying around the UK at the moment whose training requirement (should they want to join NPAS), would be no more or less that than an ex military pilot.
Tightgit
"Which civilian roles (other than AA/HEMS) would be using NVD? That is a sizeable training burden where mil pilots have a big advantage."
Well none as far as I know crab.
On the other hand if NPAS want pilots with an I/R then, if a civilian pilot has one and an ex-military pilot doesn't then that is a sizeable burden where the civ pilots (obviously assuming they have I/Rs), have a big advantage.
Anyway, as much fun as point scoring tennis is, the aim here isn't to try and shoot down all of your points. Intuitively a military pilot would seem a natural fit for the police role and generally (but definitely not exhaustively), that turns out to be the case. Fortunately for both NPAS, military pilots and civilian pilots, they don't have you or I deciding on who gets in, so the whole discussion is rather academic. Either way for those who get to do it, I'm sure it is still a rewarding, interesting and sometimes challenging job.
Well none as far as I know crab.
On the other hand if NPAS want pilots with an I/R then, if a civilian pilot has one and an ex-military pilot doesn't then that is a sizeable burden where the civ pilots (obviously assuming they have I/Rs), have a big advantage.
Anyway, as much fun as point scoring tennis is, the aim here isn't to try and shoot down all of your points. Intuitively a military pilot would seem a natural fit for the police role and generally (but definitely not exhaustively), that turns out to be the case. Fortunately for both NPAS, military pilots and civilian pilots, they don't have you or I deciding on who gets in, so the whole discussion is rather academic. Either way for those who get to do it, I'm sure it is still a rewarding, interesting and sometimes challenging job.
On the other hand if NPAS want pilots with an I/R then, if a civilian pilot has one and an ex-military pilot doesn't then that is a sizeable burden where the civ pilots (obviously assuming they have I/Rs), have a big advantage.
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Victoria Police, Australia- AW139 Single Pilot job
It's a bit late posting but I've only just seen it. There is still over 24hrs to apply.
http://www.seek.com.au/job/68679407?...c37016703f685d
http://www.seek.com.au/job/68679407?...c37016703f685d
The initial stipulation made by the (then) JAA Operations Committee to include (regular) instrument training in the competencies was in mitigation for the expected exposure to bad weather conditions that were likely in the role
The subject of the instrument rating was introduced and almost immediately discounted for the very reasons discussed in this thread - not just for the unwarranted expense (in time and resources) but because of the additional level of equipment that would be required for single-pilot operations on the types in use (avoidance of two-pilot operations was a factor).
Those on the committee who had, and had used, their instrument ratings (a surprisingly high number) were acutely aware of the perishable nature of a competence that it might never have to be used because it was more about procedures than handling skills.
The introduction of the technical crew member was also a mitigating factor in the discussion. In fact, more time was spent on this subject than the rating.
The subject of the instrument rating was introduced and almost immediately discounted for the very reasons discussed in this thread - not just for the unwarranted expense (in time and resources) but because of the additional level of equipment that would be required for single-pilot operations on the types in use (avoidance of two-pilot operations was a factor).
Those on the committee who had, and had used, their instrument ratings (a surprisingly high number) were acutely aware of the perishable nature of a competence that it might never have to be used because it was more about procedures than handling skills.
The introduction of the technical crew member was also a mitigating factor in the discussion. In fact, more time was spent on this subject than the rating.
You would have made a great senior Officer in the RFC during the first world war. 'We can't give the men parachutes, they might bale out at the first sign of conflict"!
(Actually not a true reason they didn't have parachutes but who doesn't like a bit of fake history to spice things up)
(Actually not a true reason they didn't have parachutes but who doesn't like a bit of fake history to spice things up)
Back to regular scheduling.
Last edited by megan; 26th Oct 2023 at 01:13.
Air Chateau
Anyone have info on this company?
https://airchateau.aero/
They are advertising for H125/A109 pilots.
https://airchateau.aero/
They are advertising for H125/A109 pilots.
