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Old 14th Oct 2022, 14:34
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Why would anyone on an IFR Flight Plan not want the full advantage of ATC assistance (contingent to their ability to provide it) possible re traffic alerts, altitude warnings, track deviation alerts, etc......"freedom of choice".....Bollocks!
because you might be VMC but flying IFR, I would have thought that was blindingly obvious. You could take traffic service instead of deconfliction so you are just advised of conflicts rather than marshalled round them.

Freedom of choice - simples.....
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Old 14th Oct 2022, 18:19
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Funny one…
Visiting the guys in the tower at CYUL in Montreal years ago.
Very busy time of day in the zone. With a mix of IFR and VFR aircraft wandering about.
A fellow calls, obviously not equipped with the world’s best radio,
Controller responds. “Aircraft C-GWTF? Dorval Tower.”
Guy launches into a 3 minute broadcast, His relatives are visiting from Little Moosepoop and it would be a nice thing to take Uncle Bob and Aunt Sally for a tour of Montreal in his white, red and black Cessna. Ect.ect, ad infinitum.
Controller response “Cessna 172 C-GWTF, Dorval Tower, turn immediately to a heading of 095, exit my control zone and never come back!”
We all agreed that he had probably never been in a control zone in his life. Not an unknown thing at the time.

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Old 15th Oct 2022, 19:29
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I’ll make it quick as it is off topic but about the same Senior Captain mentioned a couple of times above.
After waiting for over half an hour rotors running at Aberdeen in hot weather, we were told that one passenger was late. Said Captain asked for the passengers name. When everyone boarded, his only words for the PA briefing were, “ You can thank Mr xxx for the late departure, so belt up and shut up, we are on our way”.
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Old 15th Oct 2022, 20:57
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Originally Posted by Ennio
I’ll make it quick as it is off topic but about the same Senior Captain mentioned a couple of times above.
After waiting for over half an hour rotors running at Aberdeen in hot weather, we were told that one passenger was late. Said Captain asked for the passengers name. When everyone boarded, his only words for the PA briefing were, “ You can thank Mr xxx for the late departure, so belt up and shut up, we are on our way”.
Heading overseas to Africa one day routed by our travel department via Chicago to jump on Swissair. ( A strange an convoluted routing Montreal- Toronto-Chicago-Zurich - Africa. especially as Swissair had a flight Montreal -Zurich direct.)
There is an automated railway between terminals in Chicago O’Hare. On the way between terminals it grinds to a halt. After a long wait they wind up the rubber bands and it decides to trundle onwards.
Arriving at the international terminal there is a guy from Swissair waiting in a golf cart…cue Grand Prix Racing scene ..we pass folks with radios saying “ they just passed me” We arrive at the gate- agent jams a new boarding pass into my hand..run up the jetway into the aircraft. The door slams behind me.
Capt Announces: “Now that CAPTAIN Albatross has kindly joined us we may depart.”. Ouch!
I head to my seat. Flight Attendant “No Capt, this way, you have been upgraded to first class. Less chance of violence against you up there!”
About an hour later.
Capt: “ Ladies and Gentlemen if you look out the left side of the aircraft you will have a beautiful view of the city of Montreal Quebec, where our sister Swissair flight is just departing Montreal’s Dorval Airport and will be following us across the Atlantic Ocean to our destination.” Double Ouch!
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