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45 year old selling up to buy and buying a helicopter

Old 8th Aug 2022, 01:03
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Thumbs up 45 year old selling up to buy and buying a helicopter

Gidday guys,
I'm selling some land I inherited to buy a helicopter and learn to fly.
The plan is to get a helicopter, hire a good instructor and fly. It's always been the dream, but work, life, bills, mortgage etc.
Now I've actually got the chance, it's exciting and scary and I'm after advice and help from those of you in the industry. YES, I have googled, thread searched, read the stickies and spent hours going through the forum and others.

Currently have a PPL completed in a R22 and a 500, so first year will be flying plus exams full time.
Second year will be doing an instructor rating and then working with an instructor teaching my son to fly.
Thatís where the money runs out but have the asset of the helicopter to sell or grow into a small business with my son.

Iím after thoughts and ideas regarding buying versus leasing, Various turbine options and costs.
Looking at a 500, As350 or a BO105 .
Suggestions range from buy my own machine, To just go to a flying school, To pack up and go to the US and do it all there and convert on the way home, To join a syndicate, To drylease, To spend it all on wayward women and live on an island somewhere, To buy an existing small business.

This is my equivalent of a lotto win.
Your thoughts and ideas would be greatly appreciated,
Cheers!
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 05:55
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Wow! Definitely buy a helicopter! You only live once. Best thing I ever did.
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I can offer 2 well worn statements:
1. If you want a small fortune - start with a large one and buy a helicopter.
2. Whatever you pay for the aircraft, you'll pay the same again over the next 5 years on maintenance alone.

But don't let me put you off your dream, I flew them for over 30 years and loved it but the Queen and the Chief Constables picked up the bills
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WHAT FORTY Odd has said is not really true.
I have currently 3 x 300C's 1 x 500 D and an AS 350B3. They all make money ! Getting more difficult as a shortage of parts, engineers etc etc
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 11:47
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Use the money to train for you CPL and Instrument rating in the UK and get a job in the industry, you will get to fly as much as you want and earn decent money.


If you decide to buy a helicopter look at a Bell 206 if it's a runaround for you. If you want something to crosshire to others to make some money get an AS350 B2 or B3, they are good aircraft for utility type work or charter. Don't go near the BO105 as parts are becoming hard to get and qualified engineers are few and far between.

Good luck
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 16:36
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Originally Posted by jimmymc View Post
Use the money to train for you CPL and Instrument rating in the UK and get a job in the industry, you will get to fly as much as you want and earn decent money.


If you decide to buy a helicopter look at a Bell 206 if it's a runaround for you. If you want something to crosshire to others to make some money get an AS350 B2 or B3, they are good aircraft for utility type work or charter. Don't go near the BO105 as parts are becoming hard to get and qualified engineers are few and far between.

Good luck

If it f**ks, floats or flys rent it😎
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 16:43
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I'm going with wayward women and living on an island.

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Old 8th Aug 2022, 18:25
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More importantly, have you had insurance quotes yet for someone with your experience?
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 21:19
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Your plan is absolutely sound, apart from the buying a helicopter part.
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 20:09
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Invest wisely....leaving helicopters out of it.....spend half your money on whisky and women....and rest you can just plain waste.

Buy a glider and learn to fly that well....and get over this mid-life crisis.

At age 45 how long would you have before you hit the maximum age for commercial flying?
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Originally Posted by SASless View Post
Invest wisely....leaving helicopters out of it.....spend half your money on whisky and women....and rest you can just plain waste.

Buy a glider and learn to fly that well....and get over this mid-life crisis.

At age 45 how long would you have before you hit the maximum age for commercial flying?

you only spent half on whiskey and women SASless ?
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Old 10th Aug 2022, 11:10
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And boats…
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Old 10th Aug 2022, 13:27
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Ah yes....Boats....a 41 foot Cutter rigged Ketch, a 25 foot Jones Brothers flat bottom Skiff, a 25 Foot Sea Hunt Bay Boat, a 22 Foot Hancock Skiff, and a 20 foot War Eagle Aluminum Duck Boat......all but the Sea Hunt have been money pits!

The Ketch ate money like a 21 year old mistress with a cocaine habit!

I did make a profit on the Sea Hunt....which offset the cost of the Hancock and War Eagle. which I have now.

That reminds me....Flounder Gigging season is about to start.....must get out the Light System and Gigs...rig the fish cooler in the boat and do some test runs.

Time to prove one can get too drunk to fish!

Fortunately most of the water around here is shallow enough you can stand up and walk ashore if you fall over the side.
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Tried .Boats & and Helicopters so how expensive was the third choice
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Kipling had something to say about this.
From "Certain Maxims of Hafiz'.

If he play, being young and unskilful
For Shekels of silver and gold
Take his money, my son, praising Allah.
For the kid was ordained to be sold.

And as said rather more pithily above, if it flies, floats or f***s it's always cheaper to rent.

And "If you want to make a small fortune, start with a big one in aviation".

Read, mark, learn...and inwardly digest...
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Old 12th Aug 2022, 08:22
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Go for it

OBVIOUSLY
If you love helicopters, get stuck in! Itís such an amazing life skill and who wouldnít want to move about in 3 dimensions.
Please donít listen to the pilots who recommend not being a pilot.
in fact DM me and we can go flying together.
Good luck!
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I donít know you but you sound like a solid bloke. I shall therefore do my best to help you.

DO NOT BUY A HELICOPTER!!!!! You might as well just have a bonfire with your sonís inheritance.
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Old 14th Aug 2022, 11:29
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You know I've read this with interest and in life sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're not. But! this life is the only one ya got, if you want to own a helicopter then go for it. If it proves to be more expensive than you thought then sell it. Don't die wondering.
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Old 14th Aug 2022, 16:25
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Originally Posted by Evil Twin View Post
You know I've read this with interest and in life sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're not. But! this life is the only one ya got, if you want to own a helicopter then go for it. If it proves to be more expensive than you thought then sell it. Don't die wondering.
More importantly Donít die in it!
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Old 14th Aug 2022, 16:41
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Originally Posted by Baldeep Inminj View Post
I donít know you but you sound like a solid bloke. I shall therefore do my best to help you.

DO NOT BUY A HELICOPTER!!!!! You might as well just have a bonfire with your sonís inheritance.

Oh Mr Yawn I can well imagine youíre great fun at a party! If he buys a helicopter he may be in danger of enjoying himself and we canít have that now can we. I know I know ÖÖ renting an aircraft is probably the most sensible advice but schools / SFH companies need them back by certain times etc and in practice you are never anything like as free as if you own your own. Iíve owned some cars that make no sense to an accountant but the enjoyment has been priceless.
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