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Old 31st Mar 2022, 01:22
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Helicopter missing - Mt Disappointment VIC (AU)

Hoping for a good outcome. Anyone know any more?

Victoria Police are investigating reports of two missing helicopters around Mount Disappointment.

Itís understood the aircraft were travelling in a convoy from Melbourneís CBD. One helicopter disappeared just after 9.30am, with the second helicopter also yet to be located.

According the 9News, ďseveral peopleĒ were on board the two helicopters and Ambulance Victoria and Victorian Police are currently searching the area.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau is also aware of the incident.
Police helicopters have been spotted in the area. Picture: 9News.Located around 80km from the cityís CBD, Mount Disappointment is located near the south end of the Great Dividing Range.
https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...7bff3dd78a5d48
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Old 31st Mar 2022, 02:45
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I think this is after the accident called as your can see the SAR and Police helicopters heading this way (unless it was an aircraft as part of this existing package in the area). If you go back to 2055 UTC on FR24 you can see a HC130 l (that departed cbd) pass over the area perform some manoeuvres head out then back before landing at Mangalore
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Old 31st Mar 2022, 02:59
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I could be wrong, but theres only one operator in Melbourne that i can think of that operates the missing type. Bloody awful..
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Old 31st Mar 2022, 09:16
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Update. More details.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-...urne/100954600

Seems a bit similar to an incident out of Sydney to Bathurst a few years back.

more info. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-...amed/100958098

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Update. Names released.
Not in that article they arenít.
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https://amp.9news.com.au/article/8d4...5-333f56fff89f
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Photo of the young pilot, my question is, is this how a seat belt is worn in the EC130?



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Originally Posted by megan View Post
Photo of the young pilot, my question is, is this how a seat belt is worn in the EC130?


itís not how it should be worn in any aircraft. Mind you, in the last week Iíve seen proudly shown video on FB of someone doing B205 training, and neither pilot are wearing shoulder straps at all.
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That machine is no 130 - old 350 B,BA or B2.

The seat belt fits the vintage of the aircraft and is a 4 point harness although in the pic the thing is way out of adjustment for correct fit. Lap Straps should be tighter to bring the buckle lower.

Must be a pretty old machine as that style harness was even used in the SA 315 B Lama.

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212, I've had reason to comment previously here how this is not how a harness is worn, as it shows up on many videos posted, of instructors also. Basic education missing I think, if worn in such a manner you might as well not wear it at all.
someone doing B205 training, and neither pilot are wearing shoulder straps at all
When the Huey first came out accident investigators found the pilot/s at times still strapped in their seats, but located some distance in front of the airframe, having been ejected trough the windscreen in what should have been a survivable accident. Belts at the time were attached at the seat and the seat was letting go from the runners, probably aided by airframe distortion, lap belts were then secured to the airframe, shoulder harness remained attached to the rear and bottom of the seat (inertia reel). Problem solved.

Loved the crotch strap on the 76, there was no way you were going to submarine out of that, and it kept the buckle low on your hips where it should be.

Thanks RVDT, I know absolutely nothing of French machinery.
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In the mid 60s the only helicopter I flew with a shoulder harness was the FH 1100, the Bell 47 & 206 just had a lap belt. After a fatal accident, CASA made all helicopters have a 4 point harness, even the Bell 47. The S76 came out with a 5 point harness. In all cases the lap belt should be tight low down on the lap, then the shoulder harness clicked in. In the photo that harness would not be too helpful.

Changing subject, I'm very surprised there is no mention of radio calls made by either pilot. If the first one had a mechanical problem or in cloud unexpectedly, you would have expected a radio call. I don't know how far away the second pilot was, the report seems to suggest he was following, in which case you would expect him to see or hear or say something to the other pilot. Then the second one returned which suggests conditions weren't the best. The final result was a tragedy for the 5 on board but also I expect traumatic for those following.
I hope they come up quickly with the cause to make sure it's not repeated.
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Originally Posted by RVDT View Post
That machine is no 130 - old 350 B,BA or B2.

The seat belt fits the vintage of the aircraft and is a 4 point harness although in the pic the thing is way out of adjustment for correct fit. Lap Straps should be tighter to bring the buckle lower.

Must be a pretty old machine as that style harness was even used in the SA 315 B Lama.
Iím currently flying a 1990 SD2 with the same buckle.
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the Bell 47 & 206 just had a lap belt
Civvies cost cutting Nigel, the military version of the 47 (TH-13M) I learnt to fly in 1967 had the full rig.




I think privately we know the accident cause, will be repeated again ad nauseam unfortunately.
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The helo in the photo above is when he was flying for SeaWorld aviation on the Gold Coast, think they have either BA or B2s there.
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Iím currently flying a 1990 SD2 with the same buckle.
So that would be 32 year old machine? Where has the time gone?
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I have flown in that area a bit. Check the recent media photo's of the height of the trees and they may as well be made of steel.

Eucalyptus Regnans aka "Mountain Ash" record height is 86 metres. ~ 280' for Americans.

Rappeling fire crews from an old twoey was fun. Yeah I know it had 2 engines but...................
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Hi Megan,
Full harness came in 1969 if my memory is working!
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I think privately we know the accident cause, will be repeated again ad nauseam unfortunately.
Agreed sadly.
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Concur

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Agreed sadly.
unfortunately have to agree. wish it was something else. too many of these.
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