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Old 7th Mar 2020, 16:52
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Terrifying to think that in Germany in the 80's and 90's within specified airspace you could fly a military Gazelle single pilot, single engine IFR, with one VHF radio, a non-Mode C transponder and a very dodgy "Tactical Navigation Aid" with a CEP of 2 continents.
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Old 8th Mar 2020, 12:18
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Yes. But you didn't have to worry about thinking yourself around a hold, followed by a procedural precision or non-precision approach, followed by a go-around of the sort Coventry applied...
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Old 8th Mar 2020, 12:33
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Yes. But you didn't have to worry about thinking yourself around a hold, followed by a procedural precision or non-precision approach, followed by a go-around of the sort Coventry applied...
What Ho, Spiffy.....how nice of the upper level staff being so considerate to lessen your workload and tasks to be completed on every Check Flight.

Far less equipment malfunctions to deal with as well....sometimes there is a good thing about simplicity.

Look on the bright side!
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Old 9th Mar 2020, 05:53
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Oh, the days of a flameout TACAN, followed by a limited-panel SRA...
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Old 9th Mar 2020, 06:37
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Oh, the days of a flameout TACAN, followed by a limited-panel SRA...
Luxury.

In ma day we all we 'a were a piece of string and a stick!
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Old 9th Mar 2020, 13:55
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What Ho, Spiffy.....how nice of the upper level staff being so considerate to lessen your workload and tasks to be completed on every Check Flight.

Far less equipment malfunctions to deal with as well....sometimes there is a good thing about simplicity.

Look on the bright side!
😂 Very good SAS. Having proved my ineptitude flying one of them thar gazelles around the clouds and then confirmed that the ineptitude also carried on to the Super Puma (and various smaller but more modern types). I stand by the point. A PAR with an air trafficker doing most of my thinking for me was easier than me thinking myself into ever decreasing circles😊.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 15:49
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Yes it has but only the 119 achieved IFR cert without any exemptions. I believe the 407 had to apply for two exemptions to get the IFR certification. The Koala complied with all requirements of the certification.
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what problems with the 407 IFR certification? Anybody?
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Old 31st Mar 2020, 02:27
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I believe one had to do with the 407 having only one hydraulic system. Bell had to demonstrate that the 407 was controllable and able to fly IFR with the hydraulics failed. No expert but I do not believe that the autopilot could handle the flight controls without hydraulics but I sure could be wrong. I have been tempted to see if the Helisas (VFR only autopilot) in the 407 I fly could handle the non-hydraulics loads however I don't want to break anything. The A119 has two systems. I can't recall what the second exemption was at the moment. I'll see if I can find it.
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Old 31st Mar 2020, 02:43
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The second was relief from HIRF (High Intensity Radiated Field). Credit to the article I located which is what I had previously read as to how they were certified. Won't let me post a link but complete credit to and very good article in ROTOR 2020 Winter edition publication. Google it.


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Old 31st Mar 2020, 21:39
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https://www.rotor.org/resource?ArtMI...ArticleID=5143

Found. Thank you. Very interesting article.
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Old 1st Apr 2020, 02:19
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Doesn't a IFR heli require both an autopilot and Stability Augmentation?...at least in the US. Sounds expensive
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Old 1st Apr 2020, 04:17
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Pug, there are good autopilots for B206 that cost around $30k, and glass cockpits for $15k, making the B206 an economical IFR machine.
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Old 1st Apr 2020, 04:44
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Actually, that's not that bad knowing that everything in aviation cost a least 10Gs.
thank you Ascend Charlie... unfortunately for me I will probably not be able to take my helicopter lesson by my birthday because of the virus. Damnit!
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Old 1st Apr 2020, 18:34
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It would be interesting to find out if Airbus Helicopters would like to certify for IFR operations their H125 and H130. If even Bell certified the 407, anybody can do it, even Robinson Helicopters and Marenco/Kopter to follow.
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