Helicopter crashes into the Hudson River NYC
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Helicopter crashes into the Hudson River NYC
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-injuries.html
Includes film of the accident, according to an eyewitness floats deployed just prior to hitting the water.
Includes film of the accident, according to an eyewitness floats deployed just prior to hitting the water.
Pretty strong wind blowing looking at the US Flag.....groundspeed was zeroed out and a turn to the right to a more or less down wind heading....at which point the rotation begins. The aircraft gained height during the spin and the tail rotor appeared to continue rotating at a steady RPM.
Being a Bell Jet Ranger that was involved....the notorious LTE must be considered the suspect!
Being a Bell Jet Ranger that was involved....the notorious LTE must be considered the suspect!
That has too slow. Too low. Too much tail wind. A tight orbit and he's worn a chunk of MR down-wash in his TR. Written all over it. I'd be surprised if there was anything mechanically wrong with the aircraft until after it hit the water.
As someone who has had a complete loss-of-thrust tail rotor failure at a hover in a 206, I can tell you that they spin a *LOT* faster than that. You have to experience it to believe it.
This one was LTE. Pilot-induced LTE.
This one was LTE. Pilot-induced LTE.
Pencil in one of those coffee dates with the CP; you know, the coffee dates without any coffee. "Oops, sorry boss for wrecking your helicopter...I won't be doing that again". Lucky he was over water, had the floats popped, and no serious physical harm to anybody. The insurance will pay for another one. Well, after deducting the deductibles, almost.
Slow orbit, tries to come to hover downwind (big nose-up attitude to stop groundspeed, so probably going backwards in the airflow). Gets to limit of pedal travel, starts to turn. Pulls power to get away, doesn't work. Lowers lever to reduce torque, heads for water. Looks inside to find float switches (and loses control of attitude) pops floats, looks up, says "Oh poop..." and splash.
No LTE. Unless you mean Lack of Training and Experience. Bell hasn't had anything they could pin LTE on since the bigger tail rotor came out.
No LTE. Unless you mean Lack of Training and Experience. Bell hasn't had anything they could pin LTE on since the bigger tail rotor came out.
Yep....the crash comic for that one will pretty much read like a .... well, like a crash comic. Shouldn't take long to write, just do a cut and paste from a previous one. Me suspects.
Yep, in excess of 180deg per sec. Make one quite dizzy. This was a leisurely yaw rate in comparison.
May be trick of the eye but doesn’t it look like a lot of spray coming from the bottom of the Heli just before it disappears? I guess it could be recirc of spray from the water ......
why would you do something like a quick stop downwind and then hover out of ground effect ? Same manoeuvre could have been done safely at 180 deg !!
why would you do something like a quick stop downwind and then hover out of ground effect ? Same manoeuvre could have been done safely at 180 deg !!
look like a lot of spray coming from the bottom of the Heli just before it disappears?
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Almost 30 years ago I flew with another instructor who had an LTE encounter on top of a small mountain (and he crashed). He showed me how to hover while yawing at a fairly high rate. The trick is to use the blur of the horizon/trees/whatever to keep the wings level and the nose from pitching down or up... it's not a comfortable thing to practice, but with some practice you can hover at pretty high yaw rates for long periods of time. If you haven't practiced it, it seems like most people lose control within 5 seconds... usually by dropping a wing.
I've been into W34th a number of times (but not recently) in the L3 and never had a problem, but then I'm always paranoid about power available so I'd never try a direct downwind approach like he did... let alone a downwind deceleration to a hover!
Yes, I think there is a lesson in there for a lot of pilots about wind, power and TR authority awareness.
Many of them forget that the loss of translational lift brings with it an increase in power required for both the main and tail rotors.
Used to see it a lot mountain flying where the extra pedal required came as a surprise!
Many of them forget that the loss of translational lift brings with it an increase in power required for both the main and tail rotors.
Used to see it a lot mountain flying where the extra pedal required came as a surprise!