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Old 22nd Jan 2019, 08:50
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CHC work to rule!

I see the SAR pilots in Ireland have had enough...They are working to rule on their roster, doing only the fixed roster they were employed to do (6/3) and not any work related stuff on their days off.
Quote "The service is over-reliant on overtime in order to maintain the required level of service, and has survived for a prolonged period on the goodwill and tolerance of the pilots themselves. This is simply unsustainable"
It's been going on for 18 month's! Does this sound familiar? I think it's about time that the UK wakes up...no pay rise for 4 years, (but management got a bonus)?? Totally reliant on overtime all the time, swapping of shifts at the last minute, PSA being ignored! Regularly disturbed on your so called days off?
I think enough is enough? This so called helping out the company is just self defeating in the long run. Have we not learnt this by now? Moral is rock bottom! Does feeling fatigued all time make for a safe working environment?
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Old 22nd Jan 2019, 09:52
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And the quote came from where?
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Old 22nd Jan 2019, 10:03
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https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...h9YRw.linkedin
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Old 22nd Jan 2019, 12:35
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Far more effective than a strike.....use their own Rules against them....get your pay and time off.

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Paramilitary transitioned to civilian airline-based fatigue rules will always be awkward. Curious for those that have done it how the military F&D compares to civilian, and (honestly) whether or not you felt fatigued. Economic drivers don't help, low bid wins and as costs increase in the later years of the contract it becomes a money-losing albatross.
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Old 23rd Jan 2019, 10:30
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Paramilitary transitioned to civilian airline-based fatigue rules will always be awkward. Curious for those that have done it how the military F&D compares to civilian, and (honestly) whether or not you felt fatigued. Economic drivers don't help, low bid wins and as costs increase in the later years of the contract it becomes a money-losing albatross.
Don't think this has anything to do with "fatigue rules" per-se. Uk and Ireland have been doing CIVSAR with commercial crews and an approved FTL scheme for decades with few problems.

This is simple the pilots being fed up with routinely being required to do more work than they are contracted for because there are not enough crews and deciding that they are not going to do it anymore.
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Old 23rd Jan 2019, 14:04
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Contracts work two ways....for the company and against the pilots.

With the market situation for pilots....getting too rowdy draws the kind of attention you do not care for long term.

Boss Fellahs are used to running the show and don't care for interlopers who get into their turf.

If they are paying you for the overtime and making other compensatory measures....your screaming about it being unfair shall fall on deaf ears I would think.

Does the Contract state you can refuse overtime or extra shifts?

Read the Contract very carefully before you walk out on that long skinny plank.
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Old 23rd Jan 2019, 20:17
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Wow, a firm stance from a union previously guilty of contradicting their own agreements. What about failing to represent members because it wasn’t the will of the LGC? But is it really just about the roster and all that overtime they’re paying 50% tax on? Are those driving existing harmoniously with their rearcrew brethren of the same union post the accident nearly 2 years ago? Who’s spinning it and where’s the fake news? The power of the media when you’re the first one to get the ear of the journo..... standby for the incoming questions about the questions and potential subsequent denials. All is not well, but may be worse if that accident report is ever published. Have the interested parties stopped objecting prior to its release or is it being watered down to protect the hierarchy? So many questions. But no answers.

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Old 24th Jan 2019, 05:15
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CHC says they have the required number of pilots as per the contract. The pilots say they are not working any more overtime to make the roster work. It can't swing both ways, one side must be spinning fake news.
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Old 24th Jan 2019, 08:39
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Not necessarily "fake news", the two sides are saying different things. It could be the contract is written and manned assuming a certain amount of overtime will be worked?
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Old 24th Jan 2019, 16:10
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Originally Posted by Apate View Post
Not necessarily "fake news", the two sides are saying different things. It could be the contract is written and manned assuming a certain amount of overtime will be worked?
Or written by people that don't understand manning and rostering
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Or written by people that don't understand manning and rostering
Could such a thing happen?
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Old 24th Jan 2019, 22:37
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Or read by people who cannot understand the written word.

I carried around a Badge and Credentials while employed by a small government agency.....at the very end of the Credentials writing was a short phrase that read ".....and those other duties that might be assigned.".

Eight fairly short and simple words.....that carried huge effect.

"RTFC".......also springs to mind....."Read the f***ing Contract.

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