Utility pilots, how’s the neck?
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Utility pilots, how’s the neck?
Hi all,
I’ve been exploring future career prospects, and the challenge of utility flying is appealing to me. I’ve had a couple very minor issues in my neck and upper back in the past though, and it seems like looking straight down trying to stretch your neck out far enough to see straight down would be a killer after a while! For those of you that have done/are doing it, is it difficult to deal with physically or is it not as bad as it looks? Thanks for the answers!
I’ve been exploring future career prospects, and the challenge of utility flying is appealing to me. I’ve had a couple very minor issues in my neck and upper back in the past though, and it seems like looking straight down trying to stretch your neck out far enough to see straight down would be a killer after a while! For those of you that have done/are doing it, is it difficult to deal with physically or is it not as bad as it looks? Thanks for the answers!
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From: Downeast
Long Line work is what gets your neck and lower back!
Twenty Thousand hours of vibration, particularly vertical vibes from poorly tracked aircraft, will beat your brains out in no time at all.
Twenty Thousand hours of vibration, particularly vertical vibes from poorly tracked aircraft, will beat your brains out in no time at all.
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From: Shropshire
Hi Chucklehead
I suffered near crippling neck problems in my early career (coupled with occasional bursts of lower back issues) that meant I had to brace my neck with both arms and roll out of bed onto my knees and restricted my neck rotation to about 10 degrees either side. Two books were recommended, Treat Your Own Neck and Treat Your Own Back, both written by a New Zealand Physio (Robin McKenzie) about 50 years ago. Very simple exercises that have almost completely sorted my problems, I do the exercises if I feel the early twinges of a problem and they just don't develop. I'm approaching 60 now and regularly fly with NVG with little or no neck problems.
Well worth a try.
Cheers
TeeS
I suffered near crippling neck problems in my early career (coupled with occasional bursts of lower back issues) that meant I had to brace my neck with both arms and roll out of bed onto my knees and restricted my neck rotation to about 10 degrees either side. Two books were recommended, Treat Your Own Neck and Treat Your Own Back, both written by a New Zealand Physio (Robin McKenzie) about 50 years ago. Very simple exercises that have almost completely sorted my problems, I do the exercises if I feel the early twinges of a problem and they just don't develop. I'm approaching 60 now and regularly fly with NVG with little or no neck problems.
Well worth a try.
Cheers
TeeS
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From: On top of the Longline
I didn’t realise we had the option of a different seat for ascent & descent!😉
As for getting a decent seat, it seems to me that the more crashworthy they are the less comfortable they are. I’d much rather sit in a B2 seat than a B3 seat, particularly for longlining. Stay fit & exercise regularly.
As for getting a decent seat, it seems to me that the more crashworthy they are the less comfortable they are. I’d much rather sit in a B2 seat than a B3 seat, particularly for longlining. Stay fit & exercise regularly.
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From: Redding CA, or on a fire somewhere
I use inflatable cushion from "Relax the Back" and we also have the tilt seats fitted in our mediums....it helps. Also as long as you do exercises on your core, you should minimize any major issues.
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From: Australia
this stuff is serious !
Hi All,
I don't want to be the prophet of doom here, but please take this stuff seriously.
A few years back, after ten years of solid utility work wearing an Alpha (around 15 years of general choppers prior to that), my constant neck pain wouldn't go away. Visit to doctor, sent for scans, visit to specialist, sent for MRI, sent for surgery. Titanium plate in the neck to stay permanently and you guessed it, they pulled my license. So all of a sudden, no income and no other way to really earn $$$. It took me 2 full years to get my license (medical) back from the authorities, but with the caveat that I must not do any vert ref work. I burnt through all of my savings, and then some. The Neurosurgeon said If I didn't change my ways, I would end up in a wheelchair.
No amount of stretching, heat pads, or chanting will help if you have stuffed the disc between the vertebrae. And the only way to prove that is with an MRI. And once you see that, believe me you will change your ways. I keep the photo of the MRI and a snap pic from during the surgery (of the plate, 4 x screws and assorted tubes etc all inside my body) on my phone to remind me to take things easy. I still fly. But gently !!
Life is too short. And helicopters are just a job...
Take care.
I don't want to be the prophet of doom here, but please take this stuff seriously.
A few years back, after ten years of solid utility work wearing an Alpha (around 15 years of general choppers prior to that), my constant neck pain wouldn't go away. Visit to doctor, sent for scans, visit to specialist, sent for MRI, sent for surgery. Titanium plate in the neck to stay permanently and you guessed it, they pulled my license. So all of a sudden, no income and no other way to really earn $$$. It took me 2 full years to get my license (medical) back from the authorities, but with the caveat that I must not do any vert ref work. I burnt through all of my savings, and then some. The Neurosurgeon said If I didn't change my ways, I would end up in a wheelchair.
No amount of stretching, heat pads, or chanting will help if you have stuffed the disc between the vertebrae. And the only way to prove that is with an MRI. And once you see that, believe me you will change your ways. I keep the photo of the MRI and a snap pic from during the surgery (of the plate, 4 x screws and assorted tubes etc all inside my body) on my phone to remind me to take things easy. I still fly. But gently !!
Life is too short. And helicopters are just a job...
Take care.
