USAF Chooses AW-139 To Replace UH-1H
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Now had they gone to an off the shelf UH--60L/M......interoperability bonuses, commonality of parts, compatible training.....but then the DOD has never let commonsense get in the way of buying things.
I remember from some discussions about this a few years back that USAF felt that it didn't need a 19,000-22,000 pound helicopter for this mission. They wanted/needed a smaller one. So that's what they got.
(Do not disagree with your point on parts commonality, etc)
(Do not disagree with your point on parts commonality, etc)
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When does the taxi service turn into a combat assault aircraft?
One of the missions is to transport Special Reaction Teams in the event of hostile attacks upon a missile site or related facility.
When the bullets start flying....I would much rather be in a Blackhawk than the AW-139.
Likewise....come crashworthiness and redundancy of systems...I bet the UH-60 is far more resilient than the 139.
One of the missions is to transport Special Reaction Teams in the event of hostile attacks upon a missile site or related facility.
When the bullets start flying....I would much rather be in a Blackhawk than the AW-139.
Likewise....come crashworthiness and redundancy of systems...I bet the UH-60 is far more resilient than the 139.
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Likewise....come crashworthiness and redundancy of systems...I bet the UH-60 is far more resilient than the 139.
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When does the taxi service turn into a combat assault aircraft?
One of the missions is to transport Special Reaction Teams in the event of hostile attacks upon a missile site or related facility.
When the bullets start flying....I would much rather be in a Blackhawk than the AW-139.
Likewise....come crashworthiness and redundancy of systems...I bet the UH-60 is far more resilient than the 139.
One of the missions is to transport Special Reaction Teams in the event of hostile attacks upon a missile site or related facility.
When the bullets start flying....I would much rather be in a Blackhawk than the AW-139.
Likewise....come crashworthiness and redundancy of systems...I bet the UH-60 is far more resilient than the 139.
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Bell was originally to produce UH-1Ys by rebuilding UH-1Ns, but ultimately built them from scratch instead. In 2008, the UH-1Y entered service with the Marine Corps and also began full-rate production. The aircraft replaced the USMC's UH-1N Twin Huey[color=#202122] light utility helicopters, introduced in the early 1970s. The final UH-1Y was delivered in 2018.
Like to offer a clarification to this phrase quoted from Tottigol:
” however in this case the 139 beat the '60 in just about every check mark of the requirements “
Not close in the Ballistic Survivability and Vulnerability and Crashworthiness areas. ( But I understand-its going to be an admin aircraft etc ).
” however in this case the 139 beat the '60 in just about every check mark of the requirements “
Not close in the Ballistic Survivability and Vulnerability and Crashworthiness areas. ( But I understand-its going to be an admin aircraft etc ).
The whole programme paid lip service to the expression ‘upgrade’ and I think the only components that stayed were the cockpit doors and nameplates! The key point was the funding and overall programme process was administered in a totally different manner to a tender for a new type, so was a quicker and more streamlined “purchase”, with fewer hurdles to jump over.
The whole programme paid lip service to the expression ‘upgrade’ and I think the only components that stayed were the cockpit doors and nameplates! The key point was the funding and overall programme process was administered in a totally different manner to a tender for a new type, so was a quicker and more streamlined “purchase”, with fewer hurdles to jump over.
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This might document might be of interest.
It is a 2022 Acquisition Report for FY 2022 and discusses the 139 Program.
https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/D...R_DEC_2022.pdf
It is a 2022 Acquisition Report for FY 2022 and discusses the 139 Program.
https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/D...R_DEC_2022.pdf
Deliveries and Cuts
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...-at-malmstrom/
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/us...-xifzyzNSq_sK6
so looks like JBA and Yokota won't get theirs
cheers
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/us...-xifzyzNSq_sK6
so looks like JBA and Yokota won't get theirs
cheers
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The article says the prog of record has been revised. So the total # of H-139s isn't going to be 80-84 airframes, and now will be 30-36. Does this imply the UH-1N (64 copters) will sustain for more years than planned in a mixed fleet alongside the 139?
If so, the Ns will receive upgrades, the same way the Spanish Navy upgraded their N models a few years ago, and as the Canadian Army is upgrading their Bell 412s?
Or will the UH-1N be phased, and maybe the UH-72 or H145 fill up the rest of the fleet?
If so, the Ns will receive upgrades, the same way the Spanish Navy upgraded their N models a few years ago, and as the Canadian Army is upgrading their Bell 412s?
Or will the UH-1N be phased, and maybe the UH-72 or H145 fill up the rest of the fleet?
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. Does this imply the UH-1N (64 copters) will sustain for more years than planned in a mixed fleet alongside the 139?
If so, the Ns will receive upgrades, the same way the Spanish Navy upgraded their N models a few years ago, and as the Canadian Army is upgrading their Bell 412s?
Or will the UH-1N be phased, and maybe the UH-72 or H145 fill up the rest of the fleet?
If so, the Ns will receive upgrades, the same way the Spanish Navy upgraded their N models a few years ago, and as the Canadian Army is upgrading their Bell 412s?
Or will the UH-1N be phased, and maybe the UH-72 or H145 fill up the rest of the fleet?