Cumbria - Dauphin in the fog...
Very well played, Sir!
Did anyone else hear, @24 seconds, the lad in the back say, "I've just seen a piece fall off it" ... just after the Dad says "deary me" ?
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Rumor has it this be thems.
About That "Blue Thunder" Counter-Terror Chopper That Landed On London Bridge - The Drive
About That "Blue Thunder" Counter-Terror Chopper That Landed On London Bridge - The Drive
Rumor has it this be thems.
About That "Blue Thunder" Counter-Terror Chopper That Landed On London Bridge - The Drive
About That "Blue Thunder" Counter-Terror Chopper That Landed On London Bridge - The Drive
Thought I'd just finish this thread with some more detail to calm the outraged Daily Mailers
Having had an update, the video clip actually shows the aircraft hovertaxiing back out of the weather having turned round instead of pushing on. No IFR option due to location and fuel.
The weather came across the tops of the hills and down onto them - they stopped, had a look, turned round and, just after the video clip, exited the poor weather and continued en route.
As expected, they reported the incident to their authoriser and chain of command on return to base - BEFORE the video clip even made it to FB.
Anyone care to apologise for the comments they made about this crew and their actions?
Having had an update, the video clip actually shows the aircraft hovertaxiing back out of the weather having turned round instead of pushing on. No IFR option due to location and fuel.
The weather came across the tops of the hills and down onto them - they stopped, had a look, turned round and, just after the video clip, exited the poor weather and continued en route.
As expected, they reported the incident to their authoriser and chain of command on return to base - BEFORE the video clip even made it to FB.
Anyone care to apologise for the comments they made about this crew and their actions?
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Errr.....NO.
I was flying along minding my own business when some fog jumped out in front of me!
sounds like a shock of crit.
BTY Crab, the Daily Mail never has any nice pictures. The Sun and Daily Sport much better.
I was flying along minding my own business when some fog jumped out in front of me!
sounds like a shock of crit.
BTY Crab, the Daily Mail never has any nice pictures. The Sun and Daily Sport much better.
Errr.....NO.
I was flying along minding my own business when some fog jumped out in front of me!
I was flying along minding my own business when some fog jumped out in front of me!
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Thought I'd just finish this thread with some more detail to calm the outraged Daily Mailers
Having had an update, the video clip actually shows the aircraft hovertaxiing back out of the weather having turned round instead of pushing on. No IFR option due to location and fuel.
The weather came across the tops of the hills and down onto them - they stopped, had a look, turned round and, just after the video clip, exited the poor weather and continued en route.
As expected, they reported the incident to their authoriser and chain of command on return to base - BEFORE the video clip even made it to FB.
Anyone care to apologise for the comments they made about this crew and their actions?
Having had an update, the video clip actually shows the aircraft hovertaxiing back out of the weather having turned round instead of pushing on. No IFR option due to location and fuel.
The weather came across the tops of the hills and down onto them - they stopped, had a look, turned round and, just after the video clip, exited the poor weather and continued en route.
As expected, they reported the incident to their authoriser and chain of command on return to base - BEFORE the video clip even made it to FB.
Anyone care to apologise for the comments they made about this crew and their actions?
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Crab my dear fellow. I have been flying a little bit here and there. I have not had to hover taxi off a mountain cos fog fell on top off me out of the blue. Maybe I have just been lucky eh. What do you think? Maybe it’s because I am “Up myself” whatever that means.
Straws, clutching etc. However I admire you defence of the indefensible. Your support for the insupportable.
There is another thread started about how to be a good helicopter pilot. Maybe we should copy the video onto it and say “Don’t do this” or maybe you would caption “Do this”
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Straws, clutching etc. However I admire you defence of the indefensible. Your support for the insupportable.
There is another thread started about how to be a good helicopter pilot. Maybe we should copy the video onto it and say “Don’t do this” or maybe you would caption “Do this”
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So you are saying that it is indefensible to plan a low level sortie, get caught out by the weather in a steep sided mountain pass, stop, turn round and taxi out??????????
I really don't know what sort of flying you did in the Army but I do think you have forgotten your roots and lost complete perspective here.
The be a better pilot thread should hold that video up as a 'how to extricate yourself properly' example - or a 'how not to end up in CFIT or IIMC' - it shows exactly what should be done - go down, slow down and turn round when you can.
By 'up yourself' I mean pretending you have never been caught out by weather - I'm starting to wonder if you are a pilot at all.
Helonorth - I don't need to help these guys - they didn't do anything wrong and everyone except you and DB knows it
I really don't know what sort of flying you did in the Army but I do think you have forgotten your roots and lost complete perspective here.
The be a better pilot thread should hold that video up as a 'how to extricate yourself properly' example - or a 'how not to end up in CFIT or IIMC' - it shows exactly what should be done - go down, slow down and turn round when you can.
By 'up yourself' I mean pretending you have never been caught out by weather - I'm starting to wonder if you are a pilot at all.
Helonorth - I don't need to help these guys - they didn't do anything wrong and everyone except you and DB knows it
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Crabby, the only defence I can think of to offer having seen the video, is the crew did not have enough experience to recognise they had already gone too far before turning around.....if indeed that is what they did.
Use a little common sense. Hover taxiing in fog along a public road in peacetime close to cars carrying families was, is, and never will be acceptable no matter what uniform we wear.
You are wondering if I am really a pilot. Hmmmm. Are you now suggesting that to be a pilot I must try to kill myself in fog? I am confused.
Use a little common sense. Hover taxiing in fog along a public road in peacetime close to cars carrying families was, is, and never will be acceptable no matter what uniform we wear.
You are wondering if I am really a pilot. Hmmmm. Are you now suggesting that to be a pilot I must try to kill myself in fog? I am confused.
So now the facts DB- and they are facts - don't match your perception of the video, you lack the honesty or moral courage to admit you fired from the hip and criticised a crew, assuming they were cowboys because they were in a video that you didn't like the look of.
Now even you must understand that hill fog - which is just cloud on the ground - can be formed in hilly terrain such as the Lake District very quickly and can be extremely localised - can you not understand that this wasn't a 'push on into a lowering cloudbase and poor vis' situation but instead a sudden appearance at the top of a steep sided valley, of said hill fog. Note the steep-sided valley descriptor which forced a slow-down, go-down with no immediate option to turn round. Once established safely in a hover, but engulfed in the forming hill fog, the turn around could be completed and the exit strategy (hovertaxiing on a line feature which was the SAFEST thing to do) employed.
Do please carry on trolling about this but I don't think I am the only one asking questions about your experience or problem with either SAR or SF flying.
Nigel, grow up you are better than that.
Now even you must understand that hill fog - which is just cloud on the ground - can be formed in hilly terrain such as the Lake District very quickly and can be extremely localised - can you not understand that this wasn't a 'push on into a lowering cloudbase and poor vis' situation but instead a sudden appearance at the top of a steep sided valley, of said hill fog. Note the steep-sided valley descriptor which forced a slow-down, go-down with no immediate option to turn round. Once established safely in a hover, but engulfed in the forming hill fog, the turn around could be completed and the exit strategy (hovertaxiing on a line feature which was the SAFEST thing to do) employed.
Do please carry on trolling about this but I don't think I am the only one asking questions about your experience or problem with either SAR or SF flying.
Nigel, grow up you are better than that.
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It was not along a road, it was along side a road!. If I got caught out like that I may want to keep a road in sight incase I HAD to put it down. At least then not far to walk for help or to get picked up or to arrange a recovery if breaking down or jerry can etc ...
I agree with Crab... (sorry Crab!)
Use a little common sense. Hover taxiing in fog along a public road
I agree with Crab... (sorry Crab!)
Chopjock - another good reason for following the road in those conditions is that the wires are usually strung along the roads in those parts - much better to know exactly where they are and have them in view than to be constantly worried about where they might be or come across them unexpectedly