HNZ wins SAR in Oz
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Originally Posted by industry insider
What is the contracted service Crab?
“We are very excited to expand our S-92 operations in Broome to include full all-weather search and rescue services.”
So apparently the contracted service is for full all weather search and rescue.
You may have to scroll back some time in the thread as the “very excited” Mr Wall made that statement in May. I wonder how thrilled he is now?
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
As I understand it the contract is to provide AWSAR.
As I'm reliably informed by a mate next door, BRS would have had 24/7 AWSAR in place by now. Which was certainly something I was looking forward to having available, given the number of offshore flights we are doing, to effectively the middle of nowhere, cyclone season almost upon us and thousands of workers offshore.
As anyone who has crewed 24/7 AWSAR in the past will know it is 10 times more involved and difficult than LIMSAR, given the requirements for a bunch of gap analysis, risk assessments, CASA manual approvals and CASA exemptions etc. If HNZ are struggling to get day only LIMSAR up and running some 6 months late they will be in for a big shock when they move onto AWSAR, it just ain't easy and nor should it be, compared to offshore flights it has a significantly higher risk profile.
It can take months just to get exemptions trough CASA legal and then parliament, which cant be submitted until all manuals, training material etc is fully CASA approved. I cant see the service being available until the back end of next year, which is a shame. If there is anytime its needed that time is now, as Crab rightly points out we just have to hope that no ditching occurs on one of the later afternoon runs, a man overboard offshore at night or a serious injury on one of the many support vessels without a helideck.
Personally I don't like leaving things to chance.....anyway here's hoping!!
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Originally Posted by trackdirect
Why is it that HNZ are always asking for rated guys, is no one willing to train anyone anymore? Can't expect to pay peanuts and not invest in training staff, only trying to poach rated guys from other contracts so they can keep profits high!!
Those days are long gone....
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Originally Posted by Brother
Twisty
I wasnt going to comment but you blokes are making me laugh so much i cant get to sleep for my early shift. PHI and HNZ, both in business 60 years incapable of providing sar and BRS the only ones who know what they are doing? and pay extra to get the job done? maybe that's why BRS is losing all its work.
Crab
this a basically a repeat of your last post, are you ok or do you need to the clock test?
I wasnt going to comment but you blokes are making me laugh so much i cant get to sleep for my early shift. PHI and HNZ, both in business 60 years incapable of providing sar and BRS the only ones who know what they are doing? and pay extra to get the job done? maybe that's why BRS is losing all its work.
Crab
this a basically a repeat of your last post, are you ok or do you need to the clock test?
As far as “paying extra to get the job done”.
Surely the client has paid (the “new era” cheap) price to get the job done(SAR and transfers). When HNZ can’t do it (temporarily we would assume), someone is paying (extra) BRS and CHC to do it.
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Is the Broome operation/contracts unique in having an AWSAR requirement?
Of all the offshore locations I've worked, plus those of pilots who I've trained, not one of those gigs had an AWSAR requirement. Limited night offshore MEDEVAC capability was the maximum extent of any requirement, no SAR, no winching, nothing. Just fly out to the rig/s at night under IFR weather and recover a patient to shore. The offshore workers understood this, that's why they're on the big bucks.
Of all the offshore locations I've worked, plus those of pilots who I've trained, not one of those gigs had an AWSAR requirement. Limited night offshore MEDEVAC capability was the maximum extent of any requirement, no SAR, no winching, nothing. Just fly out to the rig/s at night under IFR weather and recover a patient to shore. The offshore workers understood this, that's why they're on the big bucks.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
As I understand it the contract is to provide AWSAR.
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Originally Posted by ersa
Those days are long gone....
Last edited by pilot and apprentice; 16th Oct 2017 at 05:54. Reason: grammar
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Originally Posted by hookesjoint
As anyone who has crewed 24/7 AWSAR in the past will know it is 10 times more involved and difficult than LIMSAR, given the requirements for a bunch of gap analysis, risk assessments, CASA manual approvals and CASA exemptions etc. If HNZ are struggling to get day only LIMSAR up and running some 6 months late they will be in for a big shock when they move onto AWSAR, it just ain't easy and nor should it be, compared to offshore flights it has a significantly higher risk profile.
I sincerely hope that all players keep their focus on what's important & that's staying safe out there!
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As I understand it the contract is to provide AWSAR.
Twisty
When HNZ can’t do it (temporarily we would assume), someone is paying (extra) BRS and CHC to do it.
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Slightly off topic and apologies for that but with this many Aus experts, who is flying the Chevron work in the GAB at the moment? I heard a couple of rumours about that too.
Last edited by nowherespecial; 17th Oct 2017 at 11:25. Reason: I can't spell 'apologies' or 'the' anymore....
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NWS, from Friday's ABC online
So I don't think anyone is or will be flying it.
Major international energy company Chevron has announced it has joined BP in abandoning plans to drill in the Great Australian Bight on South Australia's west coast.
It said while the Bight had massive potential, low oil prices had forced it to concentrate on other projects.
Chevron said the decision to ditch its $400 million plans had nothing to do with government policy, regulatory, community or environmental concerns.
It said while the Bight had massive potential, low oil prices had forced it to concentrate on other projects.
Chevron said the decision to ditch its $400 million plans had nothing to do with government policy, regulatory, community or environmental concerns.
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Originally Posted by nowherespecial
II, thank you Sir. I heard Babcock had it but that wasn't so much of a rumour as a press release that was publicly announced...! Fail on my part. And there was me thinking I had some gossip...
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Originally Posted by Wreckingball
Best they go with an operator other than HNZ if they need AWSAR (or LIMSAR at this rate) on that time frame 
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inpex uses HNZ and BRS as helicopter companies so while BRS covers limsar we are covering more offshore runs which they would be doing. So i don't think it costs extra for BRS to do limsar.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
so the logical thing to do would be to dump HNZ and use BRS for transfers AND you would get AWSAR as well.
