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Old 2nd Feb 2017, 02:56
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MCP wasn't changed so no change in cruise. It was reinforcement of the max speed above which TO power was not allowed.

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Old 2nd Feb 2017, 08:44
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Originally Posted by The Sultan
MCP wasn't changed so no change in cruise. It was reinforcement of the max speed above which TO power was not allowed.

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No, on the 332L (Bristow Tigers) MCP was reduced from 16.5 degrees to 15.5 degrees of pitch. Cruise dropped from about 145 to 130 its.
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Sultan sure knows so much....that is not true.
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Old 2nd Feb 2017, 13:47
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Wonder how Airbus Helicopters will persuade offshore workers after this survey then?

https://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news...-pumas-return/

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Old 2nd Feb 2017, 19:18
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You believe they will get a choice? Unless you call "get on this aircraft or stay at home and we will employ somebody else" a choice. Sadly money talks and fact is the EC225 performs much better than a S92 in payload & range terms.
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Old 2nd Feb 2017, 19:40
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The unsatisfactory safety record in the North Sea — which is not solely due to technical problems, Faury noted — has led Airbus to do some brainstorming.
Can someone interpret what the above statement means? Are there other issues at play?

- See more at: https://www.verticalmag.com/news/air....GuvajtO8.dpuf
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Dying to see how they'd react if somebody presented them with the unknowns involved in navigating wells or mooring rigs and objectively compared those with aircraft design and manufacturing processes.

The lower number of events; wells or rig moves; allows the cracks to be papered over.
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Old 2nd Feb 2017, 21:31
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Originally Posted by rotor-rooter
Can someone interpret what the above statement means? Are there other issues at play?

- See more at: https://www.verticalmag.com/news/air....GuvajtO8.dpuf
Probably something to do with two perfectly servicevable aircraft being flown into the water!
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Old 3rd Feb 2017, 04:58
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Originally Posted by jimf671
Dying to see how they'd react if somebody presented them with the unknowns involved in navigating wells or mooring rigs and objectively compared those with aircraft design and manufacturing processes.

The lower number of events; wells or rig moves; allows the cracks to be papered over.
Who exactly are "they"? Do you have a particular stereotype passenger in mind? "They" could be the directional drilling specialist who knows more about what is happening 15,000ft below him than the flight crew know about what is going on in the MGB. "They" could be on their way to a semi to control and manage that rig move. In any single day's NS flying there are usually more technical specialists in the back than in the front (no disrespect intended). Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and to make their own choices, even the hard ones. For many that is an educated choice. And not just those who upgrade themselves to 'Business Class' beside the bigger escape window or the door jettison handle.

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Old 3rd Feb 2017, 11:02
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Which Model/Type of "Puma" did they have to reduce Cruise Speeds on to stop their going through MGB's like unsupervised Kid's going through the contents of a Cookie Jar? It was told to me that getting to TBO on the Gearboxes was impossible until Power Settings (thus cruise speed)were reduced then all was well.
A similar thing has been done with the 92 so I'm not sure that can really be held as a black mark against the Puma.

A certain operator that did cruise at 80% Q is now using 70%, commensurate with most other operators - allegedly due to a higher number of rejected MRGBs in comparison.

Of course the RFM says you can sit at 86% all day...
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Old 3rd Feb 2017, 11:21
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'They' are the 90.1% in that survey who are not happy for the aircraft to return to service.
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Old 3rd Feb 2017, 12:36
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A certain operator that did cruise at 80% Q is now using 70%
The 80% SOP never made sense. Not only did it result in more stresses on the powertrain, more importantly it resulted in a much worse specific fuel consumption.

Commercially it was plain dumb
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Old 3rd Feb 2017, 15:48
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FC80,

The point I was hoping to make is....and you reinforce is operational practices have a direct effect upon reaching TBO targets. That a specific TBO is published initially it is based upon a "model" that overtime might have to amended as real life results are obtained. That applies to every new make/model/type of aircraft.
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