Lilium vertical take off "jet"

[mickjoebill]

Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie

and on and on the veneer goes.

$375m sunk so far! Next step is to reimagine the airport, heliport, airfield.....

"​​​Vertiport"

https://lilium.com/newsroom-detail/f...tiport-network

Mjb

[sandringham1]

Interesting Forbes analysis of Lilium https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremyb...spac-air-taxi/

[Nige321]

This whole thing reminds me of Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos...
That didn't end well...

[mickjoebill]

Originally Posted by sandringham1

Interesting Forbes analysis of Lilium https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremyb...spac-air-taxi/

The most detailed article so far on Lillium, well worth the read. They really haven't reached any kind of flight related critical milestone.. haven't even transitioned to high speed forward flight.



Mjb

[Evil Twin]

Any Lilium investors reading, I have a bridge for sale that you may be interested in.....

[etudiant]

Originally Posted by Evil Twin

Any Lilium investors reading, I have a bridge for sale that you may be interested in.....

Seems there is lots of money for this project: https://www.flightglobal.com/aerospa...143112.article

Valued at $3B+ under this deal's terms.

[Less Hair]

Are they actually flying it?

[etudiant]

Originally Posted by Less Hair

Are they actually flying it?

Not to my knowledge, this is all 'on the come'. As with many others, they are selling a story,
The flood of money currently being pumped out by the authorities is fueling this and other speculations in aerospace.as well as elsewhere.

[mickjoebill]

Foolish timing to make an announcement of futuristic product.

Mjb

[mickjoebill]

5 years after starting this thread, Photographs and video of the full size interior of the 7 seater Lilium posted on Lilium's Facebook page.

https://fb.watch/v/1WHujFth4/
A striking interior, with fabulously large windows and an illuminated ceiling.

Is the canard a significant factor in pilot visibility?

If only it wasn't a mock-up

Mjb

[rrekn]

Interesting to note that things that are missing in the interior:

• Air Conditioning Vents
• Reading Lights
• Headset jacks
• Escape Path Lighting
• Fire Extinguishers
• Emergency Exits
• Seatbelts

Might be a little tricky to certify without these. They also claim to have a cruise altitude of 10,000 ft... in an unpressurised cabin.

This is what happens when you let the designers in without the engineers.

[MeddlMoe]

Originally Posted by rrekn

This is what happens when you let the designers in without the engineers.

This is Lilium in a nutshell

The performance claims are made up.
The time line for entry into service is made up.
The physics are made up

[meleagertoo]

Just imagine! An 'illuminated cieling'!

Oh! The innovation!

I can't wait...

[Ascend Charlie]

The electricity to power the illuminated ceiling could perhaps be used to power the rotors?

And look at all those screaming little turbine blades just outside the window, at ear level. Lovely.

[WingNut60]

Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie

The electricity to power the illuminated ceiling could perhaps be used to power the rotors?

And look at all those screaming little turbine blades just outside the window, at ear level. Lovely.

Like the crapper on an F-28 or DC-9

[Ascend Charlie]

They also claim to have a cruise altitude of 10,000 ft... in an unpressurised cabin.

By the time they get up there, it will be time to descend anyway, so the pax won't have time to get hypoxic.

[mickjoebill]

Lillium just announced on video in Facebook page, they will ​launch product with piloted flights in 2024.Former CFO of autonomous car tech Cruise is CFO.
Former CEO of Airbus will be chairman.
They plan to launch on NASDAQ, valued at $3B!
"Lilium’s aircraft will have 30x fewer components than a commercial airliner and is designed for ease of manufacturability and scalability. Lilium applies automotive-style design for manufacturing methods and is designing for fully automated high-quality production of its engines, actuators and batteries"

Has anyone seen a project where all facets of such a disruptive new business, are in place before the product is proven?

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[Ascend Charlie]

Lilium’s aircraft will have 30x fewer components than a commercial airliner

By "30x fewer" do they mean 1/30th of the number? Pretty easy for a piddly 6-seater to have 1/30th the components of a B787. Take 180 seats, divide by 6, you get 30. Simples!

Hope they aren't relying on Taiwan for any computer chips, they might not be available when China decides to move in next year.

[Hot and Hi]

Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie

The electricity to power the illuminated ceiling could perhaps be used to power the rotors?

And look at all those screaming little turbine blades just outside the window, at ear level. Lovely.

Now I know why the crew dims the cabin light during takeoff and landing.

[casper64]

Originally Posted by rrekn

Interesting to note that things that are missing in the interior:

• Air Conditioning Vents
• Reading Lights
• Headset jacks
• Escape Path Lighting
• Fire Extinguishers
• Emergency Exits
• Seatbelts

Might be a little tricky to certify without these. They also claim to have a cruise altitude of 10,000 ft... in an unpressurised cabin.

This is what happens when you let the designers in without the engineers.

wait wait… do you mean it has to be certified??? 😂