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Old 18th Apr 2016, 15:40
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Balked landing/missed approach

I've searched for a good EASA explanation but failed. What is the actual difference? Some literature treats it as the same but is it?

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Old 18th Apr 2016, 15:58
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yup it is a strange word, AB use it, i think balked means changing your intention (probably because you must)
so if you were landing and decide not to then you are now not landing but climbing away ie going around, 'balked landing', balked approach'
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if you were intending taking off and engine fail before TDP then it means change of plan, now you are landing. 'balked takeoff'

so balked means go around sometimes, other times it means landing

horses do it, and french people using google translate into english use it
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Thank you. I see I'm not the only one struggling with this.
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A balked landing is a go around from below decision height.
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Having no knowledge of the official definitions, I would have guessed that a missed approach is either the IF scenario or simply being unable to get the aircraft in position to attempt a landing eg misjudging an approach to a confined area or finding an obstruction...whereas a balked landing would be pulling up at the point of touchdown (eg for problems with slope or surface, such as I found on an iceberg some years back!). It would seem that I am way off the money...will keep an eye on this thread in the hope of getting some facts!
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
A balked landing is a go around from below decision height.
Thank you!
Do we have any EASA reference to that? It seems it's one of those terms that are a sort of tradition, but nobody can point a finger at the actual black&white.
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Not a reference as such but this link about mishandled go arounds refers to balked landings.
http://ad.easa.europa.eu/blob/SIB_20.../SIB_2014-09_1

There are many references to it on the Internet. Good luck sifting through it all
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Transport Canada Advisory Circular (AC) No. 700-016 distinguishes between them:
15.2 Go-Around, Missed Approach, Rejected Landing, Balked Landing
For the purposes of this AC, a distinction needs to be made between a go-around, missed approach, a rejected landing and a balked landing.

Go-Around: A transition from an approach to a stabilized climb.

Missed Approach: The flight path followed by an aircraft after discontinuation of an approach procedure and initiation of a go-around. Typically a “missed approach” follows a published missed approach segment of an instrument approach procedure, or follows radar vectors to a missed approach point, return to landing, or diversion to an alternate.

Rejected Landing: A discontinued landing attempt. A rejected landing typically is initiated at low altitude but prior to touchdown. If from or following an instrument approach it typically is considered to be initiated below DA(H) or MDA(H). A rejected landing may be initiated in either VMC or (Instrument Meteorological Conditions (IMC). A rejected landing typically leads to or results in a “go around” and if following an instrument approach, a “Missed Approach”. If related to the consideration of aircraft configuration(s) or performance it is sometimes referred to as a “Balked Landing”.

Balked Landing: A discontinued landing attempt. The term is often used in conjunction with aircraft configuration or performance assessment, as in “Balked landing climb gradient. Also see “Rejected Landing.”

A one-engine-inoperative missed approach from the MDA, DA or DH or above can normally be flown by following the published missed approach procedure. This however may not be possible under some performance limiting conditions, such as the cases provided in Section 15.1(4) of this AC.

A rejected or balked landing may require some other procedure (e.g., following the same EODP as used for take-off). In any case, the pilot should be advised of the appropriate course of action when the published missed approach procedure cannot be safely executed.
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