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Old 29th Jan 2016, 11:40
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That's right inputshaft, IR(H) is my second choice, probably easier to find a job, but I think I need to do that (IR thing) soon, not sure if it makes sense to go on a IR course with 59...
Can I point out the obvious, please?

If your intention would be to apply for an offshore, multi-crew job at the age of 55+, you would probably be the oldest co-pilot in the world. Unfortunately, I think that you would really struggle to find a position.
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Old 29th Jan 2016, 14:26
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offshore, multi-crew job at the age of 55+, you would probably be the oldest co-pilot in the world
I flew with Bristow when I was 61-63 as a contract co-pilot. I was then contracted as a commander at 64.5. That stopped at EASA 65 so I got an Aus ATPL(H). I then flew as a commander for a year and then I had to get a Chinese licence at 66. I finally retired as a commander at 69 with a current first class medical.

HeliInn can't do it. No experience and doesn't know the right people.
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Old 29th Jan 2016, 16:05
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HeliInn can't do it. No experience and doesn't know the right people.
Exactly. How many years offshore experience did you have at 61??!?
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Old 29th Jan 2016, 17:03
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Exactly. How many years offshore experience did you have at 61??!?
About 23 years, I would guess .... (61-38)
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Old 31st Jan 2016, 04:14
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over 60 no where to go

If you think someone will fly you around the world for two weeks on two weeks off you are dreaming in Technicolour. All of Middle East including Iran follows the 60 rule. Actually in Iran you can't even fly two pilot over 60. Canada offers short term work visas for helicopter pilots, one of the only countries to do that. I've seen lots of foreigners there on fires in the summer, but you've got to go for at least 4 months. May 1 - Sept 1. Forget about Oz. They gave visas to 214B experienced guys when they first bought those machines but now hiring new expats is too much paperwork trouble. China no jobs yet unless you want to spray for two months a year on an R66 and have spray experience and the R66 rating. Any other jobs there require fluent Chinese as you are always talking to someone on the ground. IFR if you've never done it is expensive an no guarantee of a job. Have you thought about selling pizza slices from a pizza cart? Might be more profit and a lot less work.
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Old 31st Jan 2016, 23:05
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Crystal balls

Lucky if you can tell where the industry let alone the world will be in 13 years time. Worry just about your current contract and not about the distant future/legislation.
It always pays to have a plan "B", "C" ; with "C" not being rotary related.
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Old 1st Feb 2016, 00:58
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Gomer,

It is now 65th birthday now. It has been that way for a few years now.
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Old 1st Feb 2016, 09:30
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in Poland in our HEMS company pilots with age close to 60 are sent for additonal medical checks....
This sounds like part of a current "opt-out" regulation with EASA, but that will end very soon. We have the same in Germany, but it'll end in two years or so...
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Old 1st Feb 2016, 10:05
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This sounds like part of a current "opt-out" regulation with EASA, but that will end very soon. We have the same in Germany, but it'll end in two years or so...
I heard, that this "opt-out" for poland is unlimited, max. age 63 ...

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Old 1st Feb 2016, 20:53
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If you had the IR and would relocate

Many HEMS pilots are 60+ years of age in the USA.
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Old 15th Feb 2016, 10:39
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Interesting hint skadi, I'll keep this in mind...
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Old 17th Feb 2016, 07:58
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Allwornout,

How difficult or what processes are there for the Canadian short term visa option as I've never heard of it...
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Old 17th Feb 2016, 19:52
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Hedski and others.
Canada suspended the Tempoary Foreign Workers program over a year ago after very much abuse of the program by several employers, and the feelings are that it will not be brought back with the climbing un-employment rate across Canada.
Also, there are many, and I mean many, experienced, qualified, current, and very willing Canadian pilots standing in line for work after massive layoffs this last fall and winter.
It,s a tough enviroment all over the world for Helicopter Pilots trying to find work, and Canada did not escape this downturn lightly, so I would suggest you save you time and consider trying else where.
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Old 17th Feb 2016, 20:58
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Exactly Londog, lots of guys looking for work over here.

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Just go to Switzerland. Funny enough the Swiss seem to see the light and have put their local authority and the Swiss Helicopter Association behind it and their exemption has been extended again to 2020.

So why exactly is it possible in Switzerland and in other countries, where aparently the same EASA rules apply, it isn't?

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Old 19th Jul 2018, 16:19
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Smart.... Bravo FOCA
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 17:01
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I hung my spurs up at 58....had the help of my not so friendly FAA Medical Standards but then I had saved a few Dollars that were left over from my pocket change derived from long nights in the Pub.
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 17:53
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I hung my spurs up at 58....had the help of my not so friendly FAA Medical Standards but then I had saved a few Dollars that were left over from my pocket change derived from long nights in the Pub.
Wish I could have done the same! But I'm still allowed to fly single pilot at the age of "60 plus" because we're a private operator.
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Old 2nd Aug 2018, 12:33
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Guess I was fortunate to join Bristow in 1977 a and flew all over the world for 35 years until Age 65. I was already working partly in the S76 C+ and ++ simulator training and checking, and continued for another 6 years until Age 71, with the last few in the D simulator (yes, you can teach an old dog new tricks with the D cockpit!). Such a rewarding career, but an IF was required early in my career. With the market today, "older, mature pilots" will find it very difficult to continue work after age 60 if you aren't already employed with a Company that has arrangements to continue beyond Age 60. . Good advice given that maybe it is time to find an alternate plan. Good luck to all those nearing this "mystical" age limitation.
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