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HeliInn 23rd Jan 2016 11:56

Where to work after Age 60 ?
 
Since Age 60 will definitely hit me with my EASA license, I cannot continue my current job in Europe after the age of 60.
As I said, still some time to go but I already would like to find out about opportunities.
Where can you fly (commercial) after the Age of 60 in a single cockpit ?

Thanks,
HeliInn

Hot_LZ 23rd Jan 2016 12:10

You can still work commercially in Europe beyond the age of 60, just not CAT. There are operators who employ over 60s for Aerial Work.

LZ

paco 23rd Jan 2016 12:48

Canada - a friend of mine recently retired at 72.

You can also do multi-crew in EASA after 60, as long as the other guy is under 60.

Phil

Fareastdriver 23rd Jan 2016 13:51

If not Canada, Oz.

HeliInn 23rd Jan 2016 14:17

Thanx so far guys, Multi Pilot Operation would indeed be an option but as we have it in another threat, this is mostly IR which I don't have (yet)
How about Africa, the Middle East, Russia, China and the US ? Do they have such a crappy rule like Age60 ?

Best regards,
HeliInn

PS: The thing is, I have family in Europe who might not want to come with me :-) :-), so a part time job somewhere in Dubai or so (not too far from Europe) would do me... Maybe one or two weeks ON, then two or three weeks off per month...

Thomas coupling 23rd Jan 2016 16:25

The average male in the UK will live to 80 if he is 60 now. But his period of freedom from ill health is only 13 years from now.

Gomer Pylot 23rd Jan 2016 17:33

The US has no such rule, yet, for Part 135 operations. Only Part 121 (scheduled airline) operations have the age 60 rule.

newfieboy 23rd Jan 2016 20:08

Canada, utility work, certainly won't get bored. Friend of mine 70 and still flying a longline, fires etc.:ok:

Heliringer 23rd Jan 2016 20:41

It's good that people a suggesting Australia, Canada and other places but seriously who is going to sponsor a 60 year old?

There are heaps of well qualified pilots looking for work who are much younger.

Good luck

HeliInn 24th Jan 2016 08:40

The 60 year old comes with a HUGE amount of experience... no need to Sponsor at all...

Heliringer 24th Jan 2016 09:39

Well if you already have the work permits for these countries then happy days for you. The world is your oyster.

Most of us others need to be sponsored to work in foreign countries, like Canada/USA etc As it's almost impossible to gain a work permit without being sponsored by the company that will employ you.

Anyway, you obviously have it nailed. :ugh:

inputshaft 24th Jan 2016 09:40

Wouldn't it be smarter to ask " How to work after age 60"

A couple of ideas above, multi crew or non- CAT single pilot utility work.

My vote would be to make sure you're qualified to enter the multi crew offshore world (WHEN it picks up in a few years time). That will keep you working to 65 and give you an option for sim instructor work as you get older, which the light helicopter market will never give you.

Seems smarter than chasing limited options around the world, but that's just me. I'm closer to 60 than you.

HeliInn 24th Jan 2016 14:18

Heliringer, no, I don't have it nailed, but I see what you mean by Sponsoring.

HeliInn 24th Jan 2016 18:50


Wouldn't it be smarter to ask " How to work after age 60"
That's right inputshaft, IR(H) is my second choice, probably easier to find a job, but I think I need to do that (IR thing) soon, not sure if it makes sense to go on a IR course with 59...

Best wishes,
HeliInn

terminus mos 24th Jan 2016 21:48

You need to complete the IR. Without it you are limiting your prospects regardless of age. Our helicopter operator would want an IR with several renewals before submitting pilots for use on our O&G contract.

As Heliringer says, in most places, without residency and work rights, you will need a sponsor. From an O&G point of view, where Heliringer is in Australia, there are quite a few pilots who have recently been made redundant and sadly quite a few more who are about to be as the O&G industry goes into hibernation and sharing everything mode.

malabo 26th Jan 2016 00:58

Interesting dilemma. You can either accept the stricter regulatory standard you've flown your career in and hang up the David Clarks at 60, or conclude that their age restriction is bull**** and try for another jurisdiction without the same standard. What's so hazardous about Europe that EASA had to safeguard the skies from +60 pilots? Any other regulations that you'll choose not to comply with when the time comes?

HeliInn 26th Jan 2016 07:11

Of course Age 60 is bull****... it shows you that the whole Thing (JAR OPS, 1178/2011 etc.) are made for Airlines, and they don't give a **** about Age 60 since they are always dual cockpit...

How many accidents have there been in Europe in the last 30 years because of a single Pilot > 60 got unconscious during flight ?

alouette 26th Jan 2016 13:01

Don't you love fixed-wing regulations in the rotary world... :mad:

HeliInn 26th Jan 2016 15:00


Any other regulations that you'll choose not to comply with when the time comes?
And what would you do in our situation, malabo ??

:D

topik22 29th Jan 2016 07:53

Hello,
in Poland in our HEMS company pilots with age close to 60 are sent for additonal medical checks....EASA give some exception and if You pass You can extend Your ability for single pilot CAT (like our HEMS) for 2 years...after that time once again medical check for another 2 years. LAst check is for 1 year up to 65 years old. Please verify that procedure in Your EASA land..:)
Greets
Jacek


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