Helicopter Robinson R66 Assembling | Video
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Oh Dear Thomas Coupling and AS365N4. You really are full of it. Not sure if its ignorance or arrogance clouding your judgement on this one. What is it exactly that you fly? and do you think it was actually assembled by robots in some sort of biochemical lab room?
I've seen many types of aircraft delivered new from the factory off the back of a truck with a crane. I've seen many more recovered from a field using the same method, with pin point precision. Just because you've not seen it before, doesn't mean it is unsafe, or that the practice is deplorable. (It may surprise/disgust you that there are several professional companies operating within the UK itself that collude in this sort of behaviour as well!)
On the subject of jackets and woolly hats; have you ever stepped foot on a hangar floor in the UK after the doors have been opened? It tends to stay quite chilly for a good time afterwards. These lads in Kiev would probably rather keep themselves warm than burn heating fuel out through the roof. What nonsense.
The suggestion of sterile environments, jigs and laser aligning is just laughable. You are aware that this aircraft was flying around in Torrance, CA a few weeks earlier aren't you? It is disassembled in its most simplest form, packed for transport, before being put back together again. This is not the final assembly line we are looking at here.
AS365N4, I'd say that list you described probably got left on the cutting room floor. Just because its not in the video, doesn't mean it didn't happen. To suggest it didn't happen at all is slightly idiotic, wouldn't you agree?
Didn't catch the bit where glue was applied with a big hammer either, maybe you can enlighten me where that bit was.
Merry Christmas!
I've seen many types of aircraft delivered new from the factory off the back of a truck with a crane. I've seen many more recovered from a field using the same method, with pin point precision. Just because you've not seen it before, doesn't mean it is unsafe, or that the practice is deplorable. (It may surprise/disgust you that there are several professional companies operating within the UK itself that collude in this sort of behaviour as well!)
On the subject of jackets and woolly hats; have you ever stepped foot on a hangar floor in the UK after the doors have been opened? It tends to stay quite chilly for a good time afterwards. These lads in Kiev would probably rather keep themselves warm than burn heating fuel out through the roof. What nonsense.
The suggestion of sterile environments, jigs and laser aligning is just laughable. You are aware that this aircraft was flying around in Torrance, CA a few weeks earlier aren't you? It is disassembled in its most simplest form, packed for transport, before being put back together again. This is not the final assembly line we are looking at here.
AS365N4, I'd say that list you described probably got left on the cutting room floor. Just because its not in the video, doesn't mean it didn't happen. To suggest it didn't happen at all is slightly idiotic, wouldn't you agree?
Didn't catch the bit where glue was applied with a big hammer either, maybe you can enlighten me where that bit was.
Merry Christmas!
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So people riding on the back of a lorry unsecured is acceptable then?
Working at height without poper staging which has hand/safety rails is acceptable then?
And people standing halfway underneath the Rotor Disc during Start is acceptable then?
I say bollocks!
The company which was featured in the Video provides Commercial Air Transport! We are not talking about some Shaddy General Aviation Garage!
Even the Ukraine is not a Member State of EASA, but they have Aggrements with EASA which means they should work to same high standards as an EASA Member.
As Part145 Company when you service more than 1 Aircraft you need to have ALL Aircraft Parts tagged/labeled and clearly seperated from each other, the same goes for Spares!
And when it comes to installing or removing Critical Parts like a Main Rotor Mast assembly you need a more precise lifiting device than a hydraulic arm on the back of a lorry as these have a tendency to be rough as f*ck.
Similar thing with the Tailboom which again is a Critical Part and needs to be in a Jig to support it during installation / removing as it needs to be fitted stress free and there are Alignment checks required afterwards! (same goes for the MGB/Mast Assembly)
All this is Engineering 101, the Basics!
And Maintenance Manuals have to be on the shop floor beside the Aircraft and not hidden away in some Office, these are for the Engineers to be used!
Also there has to be a Tool Control in place, especially when you don't have enough Tools to seperate them for each Maintenace Bay/Dock!
To me it looked like they have NO Quality Control and Health and Safety at all.
That's why this Video is the worst Advertisement for this Touring Operator!
So people riding on the back of a lorry unsecured is acceptable then?
Working at height without poper staging which has hand/safety rails is acceptable then?
And people standing halfway underneath the Rotor Disc during Start is acceptable then?
I say bollocks!
The company which was featured in the Video provides Commercial Air Transport! We are not talking about some Shaddy General Aviation Garage!
Even the Ukraine is not a Member State of EASA, but they have Aggrements with EASA which means they should work to same high standards as an EASA Member.
As Part145 Company when you service more than 1 Aircraft you need to have ALL Aircraft Parts tagged/labeled and clearly seperated from each other, the same goes for Spares!
And when it comes to installing or removing Critical Parts like a Main Rotor Mast assembly you need a more precise lifiting device than a hydraulic arm on the back of a lorry as these have a tendency to be rough as f*ck.
Similar thing with the Tailboom which again is a Critical Part and needs to be in a Jig to support it during installation / removing as it needs to be fitted stress free and there are Alignment checks required afterwards! (same goes for the MGB/Mast Assembly)
All this is Engineering 101, the Basics!
And Maintenance Manuals have to be on the shop floor beside the Aircraft and not hidden away in some Office, these are for the Engineers to be used!
Also there has to be a Tool Control in place, especially when you don't have enough Tools to seperate them for each Maintenace Bay/Dock!
To me it looked like they have NO Quality Control and Health and Safety at all.
That's why this Video is the worst Advertisement for this Touring Operator!
