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Old 30th Sep 2015, 18:35
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It seems to me that decades of hard work by hundreds of dedicated Police aviation personal has been or is being kicked into touch by the pathetic bean counters that the majority of those personal probably elected into office for a second term.
It's all very sad.
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Old 2nd Oct 2015, 08:24
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I'm sure there's more than one. Just quoting the figures they sent me.
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Old 4th Oct 2015, 20:41
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Gouli's seagull idea seems to have taken wing!
https://youtu.be/UYHjyNNy_4Y


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Old 5th Oct 2015, 00:08
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Proof positive that the average seagull has more initiative than a government minister.

Okay so the test flight could have been a bit better organised, but as a proof of concept, brilliant!
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Old 12th Oct 2015, 19:05
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From the NPAS Website:

NPAS Newcastle @NPAS_Newcastle
@tynemouthRNLI We have a lot in common, apart from the mode of transport. Look forward to seeing you's at our base.

"You's" FFS!
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 19:53
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Chatting to folks around the bazaars occasionally brings up the odd nugget of information.

I gather there was meeting in Wakefield today of BMs, "Senior Pilots"(yes I know Senior Pilots have gone, in title that is, but each unit still needs/has that senior aviator type person for that expert aviation knowledge. I also know that many pilots are strongly resisting this effort to get them to do what the old SPs were doing), plus various desk jockeys.

I also gather that it was due to start at 9am meaning that many had to stay overnight in a hotel, exacerbating the current problem of undermanning because of an overtime ban(leading to single crewing) and a general lack of pilots. Not to mention the hotel expenses in this era of cost cutting.

A later start time could have perhaps reduced of prevented this?

With the current reduction from a 25 a/c service to a 15 a/c one, it looks like a 10 ac model, at the moment, looking at the numbers of available ac due to this no overtime, lack of engineering cover and shortage of NPAS employed pilots to cover duties.
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 22:37
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MG. there's no lack of engineering cover, more like a lack of will to pay OT when an aircraft goes offline.

The maintenance providers are giving NPAS exactly what they are asking for.
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Old 15th Oct 2015, 12:20
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MG: Be careful out there in retirement - you are slowly turning gamekeeper into poacher
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Old 15th Oct 2015, 18:44
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more like a lack of will to pay OT when an aircraft goes offline
Sorry, that's what I meant.
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Old 18th Oct 2015, 18:56
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Ive been offline!

Ive been offline for about 18 months, fighting another quarter but on checking with Pprune it seems that the promised disaster that was NPAS really did take its awful toll.
The Service that by 2006 led the world in effective Police Aviation is, ten years later, all but dead. - Due to the ministrations of NPAS . OD who was seen as someone who might possibly save it, - didn't!

There are some very guilty people out there.

Sad - Very sad. So now I will get down to reading it all up again. Someone needs to document this farce!

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Old 11th Nov 2015, 08:46
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Pembrey Saved

Well, when I say 'saved'...


Pembrey's police helicopter base saved "for now" | Llanelli Star

PEMBREY'S police helicopter base has been saved from closure for the "foreseeable future".

It means as part of the National Police Air Service (NPAS) it will remain as an NPAS forward operating base for the time being to support operations.

Among its roles will be to act as a refuelling point and the deal means there will be a 24 hour helicopter service as opposed to the current 12 hours.


Dyfed-Powys Police and Crime Commissioner, Christopher Salmon said: "I'm pleased we've been able to secure this deal for the people of Dyfed-Powys.

"Any other problem I can reassure you about?"

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Old 11th Nov 2015, 12:33
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Sid, so the good news is that there is still going to be a helicopter base at Pembrey. That sounds fantastic.

Am I right in my interpretation of the story in saying that there won't be what you might call an actual helicopter based there?
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Great bit of PR for NPAS on "Cuffs" tonight! Somebody has done their research!!
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Old 11th Nov 2015, 20:33
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Efish, you are a wag

All in the first 5 mins;

BBC iPlayer - Cuffs - Episode 3
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Old 11th Nov 2015, 21:31
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Well they got the bit right about senior officers lacking the bottle to actually deal with crime anymore. That's what comes of putting civilian crime commisioners in charge. The looney lefties are now running the asylum.
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It's a shame the Cuffs prison break wasn't near Pembrey, they've still got a ... oh, no, wait, sorry, I got confused between helicopter base and helicopter - it's easy to do.
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Who is this guy?

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Old 13th Nov 2015, 06:36
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To be fair, I don't think NPAS would have been able to attend the Cuffs prison break as it did look pretty foggy to me. It's a shame the fixed wing are not on line yet, it might have been a different story.
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Old 13th Nov 2015, 09:14
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I did like the way that the motorcyclist took along a spare helmet and the crim took time to pause and put it on before mounting the bike; and isn't it a bit of a wonder why he wasn't wearing cuffs, especially considering that's the title of the programme

Anyway lets not forget this is only television, and despite it being in colour, isn't real life ……. much like Northiam Road and Dalton Hill don't happen to be between Hastings and Ashford





Being set up by someone in Sussex?
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Old 14th Nov 2015, 00:49
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20 min eta!? More like 40 mins now..........so much for 20 min rings......
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