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Robinson crash - Brazil ??

Old 23rd Sep 2014, 10:24
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Robinson crash - Brazil ??

A "new to me" vid of a Robinson crash, in what I believe is Brazil ??


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4a8_1411427966

As always, if it's an oldie, I'll delete.

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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 12:02
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4a8_1411427966

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4a8_1411427966
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 12:25
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Apparently this one.
A helicopter crashed near Fama, State of Minas Geais, around noon this Saturday (20). According to Military Police of Alfenas (MG), three people were in the aircraft, the pilot, Sgt PM of Fama, Marcos Antonio Alves and his wife, Livia Reis Carvalho. The helicopter pilot was rescued alive by fishermen who were at the lake. He has been taken to a hospital in Eloi Mendes (MG). The couple could not get out of the aircraft, which was submerged in the lake.

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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 14:02
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One newspaper reports:


"The pilot of the helicopter that crashed in the Lake of Furnas on the afternoon of Saturday (20), Fame (MG), was arrested and taken to the police station Varginha (MG) to testify. After the helicopter crash, police said, the driver fled the scene and only presented himself in Eloi Mendes (MG), a city that is 50 miles from where the accident happened, without trying to provide help to the victims"
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 14:04
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Do some people not learn anything at all when they get a license?
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 09:22
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Evidently not ......
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I don't remember learning that t/o!
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 15:57
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Diving over glass calm water.What could possibly go wrong.
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 16:38
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Diving over glass calm water.What could possibly go wrong.
Same thoughts!

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Old 24th Sep 2014, 20:27
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I learn something on this site every day!
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 10:34
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I learn something on this site every day!
Normally with these accident videos, although there may be some debate over the detail, you can normally get a general sense of what the pilot was trying to do and what went wrong. More importantly, (with the benefits of hindsight and infinite time), you can discuss what the pilot should have done to avoid\mitigate the accident, and hence at least learn something without having to make the mistake yourself.

In this case, however, I just can't work out what the pilot was trying to do or why. Was he drunk\drugged; showing off; had no experience on type (or even rotary)?

The flight path looks pretty similar to my first attempts to fly a jetranger in Microsoft Flight Simulator, which was at a time when I'd not been near a real helicopter and I was trying to use a computer keyboard to control the craft!

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Old 25th Sep 2014, 11:51
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Originally Posted by mdovey
In this case, however, I just can't work out what the pilot was trying to do or why.
I'd suggest: Plenty of power (3 up) to showboat with a towering take-off and climbs without problem. At 12s - 13s he throws it around with large nose down attitude (still showboating), causing machine to start to sink. Already at high-ish collective, pulls more to arrest descent. Change of direction and possibly now downwind exacerbates situation leading to low-time instinctive response of pulling even more collective. Horn starts at 16s and sings all the way to impact as he tries to straighten the ship and level wings to get any ground effect he can from that glassy surface whilst working out how he’s going to get that RRPM back without dumping the collective at this late stage in the game. Very sad that he took two others to their watery grave in the process.

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Old 25th Sep 2014, 13:54
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I wonder if he said in Mexican... "Watch This"
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 14:34
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"governor" OFF ?
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 15:37
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Looks like he had enough airspeed, not much wind ( mirror glass water ) so doubt he run out of power. I would guess he wanted to skim across water showboating and just got it wrong ! Wrong people picked up The Darwin award !
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 20:09
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A flat calm and a rapid manoeuvre. He probably never saw the water before he hit it.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 21:59
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A graphic and disturbing demonstration of the combination of forward velocity and zero buoyancy.


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