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Old 20th August 2014 | 12:32
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Wires. What wires?

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Old 20th August 2014 | 14:09
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Given that an entire R44 seat assembly is only $800, it's probably worthwhile buying new rather than trying to hose down the old one...

Still, at least the battered Avanza MPV escaped further injury.

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Old 20th August 2014 | 15:08
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Uhhhhhhh.....Ahhhhhhhh.....well Damn!
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Old 20th August 2014 | 16:24
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That's what I like to see a good recce of the site, who the f--k taught him
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Old 20th August 2014 | 16:53
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No doubt the time of day didnt help either.

Still, the wire protectors did a stirling job...
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Old 20th August 2014 | 17:56
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I don't suppose the Wooden Poles and Cross Arms up that there at Eye Level meant anything to the Pilot?
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Old 20th August 2014 | 20:49
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Oh dear, bet he's glad that was captured on camera :
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Old 20th August 2014 | 22:06
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Oh geez, I could barely watch through my fingers!
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Old 21st August 2014 | 01:47
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Still, the wire protectors did a stirling job...
What wire protectors? on the power line or aircraft.???

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Old 21st August 2014 | 02:09
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I think MB was being flippant! No WP on Robbo.

Lucky the MR blade tips hit first and not the mast or TR
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Old 21st August 2014 | 02:38
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Lucky, Blind & Stupid...Fvk Me....what was he thinking or looking at/not

What ever happened to good old basic Airmanship ie: SWAT checks - pre-landing???

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Old 21st August 2014 | 06:10
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Lucky, Blind & Stupid...Fvk Me....what was he thinking or looking at/not

What ever happened to good old basic Airmanship ie: SWAT checks - pre landing???
Hmmm... Sticking your neck out?
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Old 21st August 2014 | 06:31
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My friend, flying a Hughes 300, almost did the same thing. But I waived him off and the blades just grazed the wires. Dammit, you can't see those bloody things in the air.
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Old 21st August 2014 | 06:55
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Obviously responsibility always lies with the PIC, but the chap on the ground who seems to redirect the helicopter directly into the wires can't have helped!

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Old 21st August 2014 | 06:57
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I don't suppose the Wooden Poles and Cross Arms up that there at Eye Level meant anything to the Pilot?
They might do now...
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Old 21st August 2014 | 08:40
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It looks like the pilot knows the wires are there, flies over them and comes down the other side and then tries to fly / land while having to pass under them.

Is that correct ?
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Old 21st August 2014 | 11:53
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I think it's a case of "tunnelling", can't see anything else than the landing spot.
Concentrating a little bit too hard on the touch down part of the approach.

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Old 21st August 2014 | 16:33
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Lucky, Blind & Stupid...Fvk Me....what was he thinking or looking at/not

What ever happened to good old basic Airmanship ie: SWAT checks - pre-landing???
There are pilots that have, and pilots that will.

When you eventually do, you're going to love all the armchair criticism........

Safe flying VF
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Old 21st August 2014 | 16:44
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Spot on mad boom. Things like this are better discussed as a learning exercise - the video highlights lots of pitfalls;

Dusk
Last minute change in approach
Waving arms on ground
Positive ground marshalling (but by whom?)
Moving Car
Impending Brown Out
Was he/she trying to fly under wires
What was the experience level
What was the task - weddings/proms can actually be quite daunting with lots of folk about.

All in all its good that they survived - we can learn from it and teach others from it.
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Old 21st August 2014 | 18:33
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This is unfortunately something that is so easily done.

The first day of this years spray season I very nearly became a statistic due to a wire strike. The field we were spraying had a power line, like the one in the video, running east and west along a road that marked the field boundary. In the north east corner it made a ninety degree turn and then ran down the north/south field boundary. We were going to spray the field on the other side of the road, which meant that I was going to be free of worrying about the wires as I was running north/south.
Well for some reason on the second to last run I got it into my head that my next left hand turn was going to be "wire free". I pulled up, turned and set myself up to do the last run..............completely forgetting the wires were there. At the last second I saw them and managed through blind luck to pull up and go over them. I can still see them now out the door passing under the booms. It scared they heck out of me.

I had only flown over them about two hundred times that day! It is one of those moments in my flying career that will stay with me until my last breath. I have thought about it over and over as to what I was thinking. Still don't have a rational explanation.

It can happen to anyone.
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