Is Rotorheads turning into JH?
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Is Rotorheads turning into JH?
Maybe I'm getting old, but it seems to me that an increasing number of threads these days are degenerating into childish insults and name calling! I do look at The JH forum across the pond and have always felt that Rotorheads on Pprune was a much more adult affair. It doesn't really seem to be the case anymore whilst we have this ongoing transatlantic willie swinging contest which seems to detract from what start off as valid, important and informative threads. If someone doesn't agree with our point of view is it not acceptable any more to just disagree or is it obligatory to insult them, their country and he ship they sailed in on! (No question mark, it was a rhetorical question)!
Phew, I feel better for that
Phew, I feel better for that
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Me too. Once upon a time we didn't have a moderator here because we self policed and it was unnecessary. Not so now.
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Yep...pretty much trashy with all the bleating, by the self professed experts on this site. Pick any thread here, and you'll see, they pretty much degenerate to low brow name calling and bickering like school children....
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Is Rotorheads turning into JH?
Could it be that as the younger curling generation has made it in to the industry the respect for authority or people with far more experience than one self, is declining.
It's not a great tendency and I can imagine that if the same attitude from here is applied irl it is causing some real MCC issues ?
Anyone encountered this ? Paco ?
It's not a great tendency and I can imagine that if the same attitude from here is applied irl it is causing some real MCC issues ?
Anyone encountered this ? Paco ?
It's a mixture of:
(a) People like Handysnaks getting older and grumpier
(b) Changing times - people are more "enquiring/challenging"
(c) Pprune is much much bigger now and more people are aware of it. Hence the increasing activity (and associated eclectic mix of responses)
But the fabric remains intact - methinks............no?
(a) People like Handysnaks getting older and grumpier
(b) Changing times - people are more "enquiring/challenging"
(c) Pprune is much much bigger now and more people are aware of it. Hence the increasing activity (and associated eclectic mix of responses)
But the fabric remains intact - methinks............no?
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ec - there is indeed a new generation that have been brought up believing that they will never fail anything, they will just get graded, which is a real shock when it comes to the real world. We see it all the time in the classroom, and the attitude problem that results. I am all for being (slightly) anti-authority, as people who know me will attest 
, because it protects you against bullying passengers and management, but this is different.
I can see it becoming a real MCC problem.
phil
, because it protects you against bullying passengers and management, but this is different.I can see it becoming a real MCC problem.
phil
It's like buying a humidifier and a de-humidifier......just put them on the same forum and let them fight it out. Besides everybody knows 2 heli pilots in the same room = argument, or does anybody wanna argue?
MCC was never a problem when people just did what they were told!
MCC was never a problem when people just did what they were told!
The issue of the current generation's reluctance to accept both the wisdom and advice of the 'older' generation was highlighted to me during our bushfire season. There is a whole new mob of firefighters all too willing to dispute the orders given, as they Google on their smartphones and tell the Brigade Lieutenants "you shouldn't be doing it that way".
Shortly followed by an attitude adjustment, but not always what is wanted on the fireline.
We have our characters here on RH who know just how far to go when being contentious, but also having the grace to do so with humour. Then again there are a number who lately have just become a PITA and (probably) deserve the responses that they get. Should that be moderated out, or left to be seen by all who come here? Heliport pointed out that this has always been a low profile forum for moderating, and long may it continue to be so.
Let's face it, PPRuNe is not and never has been a democracy: we all sign on with an understanding of the rules and the umpire's decision being final. There seems to have been an unnecessary arguing against this of late, showing a lack of grace by those who choose not to accept the RoE.
Shortly followed by an attitude adjustment, but not always what is wanted on the fireline.
We have our characters here on RH who know just how far to go when being contentious, but also having the grace to do so with humour. Then again there are a number who lately have just become a PITA and (probably) deserve the responses that they get. Should that be moderated out, or left to be seen by all who come here? Heliport pointed out that this has always been a low profile forum for moderating, and long may it continue to be so.
Let's face it, PPRuNe is not and never has been a democracy: we all sign on with an understanding of the rules and the umpire's decision being final. There seems to have been an unnecessary arguing against this of late, showing a lack of grace by those who choose not to accept the RoE.
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Yes, but with some of them, a great deal of industry knowledge and passion.
Rotorheads is the poorer for some of the recent departures, in my opinion.
I also feel that RH has become a little too UK centric these days and is no longer a site where Professional Pilots feel comfortable discussing issues in a forum of mutual respect, which has gone now.
Thankfully, the main culprits now seem to have departed
Rotorheads is the poorer for some of the recent departures, in my opinion.
I also feel that RH has become a little too UK centric these days and is no longer a site where Professional Pilots feel comfortable discussing issues in a forum of mutual respect, which has gone now.
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I think so too.
What I find frustrating, and I've noticed sometimes raises the temperature, is good interesting discussions about helicopter ops being spoilt by the constant interruptions of armchair experts.
As a PPL, I've always welcomed the opportunity to learn from the professionals, whether they are all agreed or exchanging different opinions.
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But the fabric remains intact - methinks............no?
What I find frustrating, and I've noticed sometimes raises the temperature, is good interesting discussions about helicopter ops being spoilt by the constant interruptions of armchair experts.
As a PPL, I've always welcomed the opportunity to learn from the professionals, whether they are all agreed or exchanging different opinions.
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While it's always tempting to blame The Yoof that's hardly fair in this case, given that some of the most curmudgeonly (and incessantly political) posters are seasoned fliers.
So what's the solution? Should we 'call out' problem posters more often, or should we call in the mods more often?
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So what's the solution? Should we 'call out' problem posters more often, or should we call in the mods more often?
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Once upon a time we didn't have a moderator here because we self policed and it was unnecessary.
That's not actually correct, but I was very pleased to read it.
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Once upon a time we didn't have a moderator here because we self policed and it was unnecessary.
That's not actually correct, but I was very pleased to read it.
Actually, come to think of it, back then I was the only one doing so!
See what you started Andy.
18 posts and somebody chucks their teddy out the pram!!!!!
18 posts and somebody chucks their teddy out the pram!!!!!
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I wasn't around in 1995 so I bow to your longer experience.
There was another Mod before me. I can't remember his name now but I remember he had a chip about Mil posters and, as a result, many stopped posting. The forum was almost dead when I was asked to take over and I was very pleased that they came back - some under different usernames.
There was another Mod before me. I can't remember his name now but I remember he had a chip about Mil posters and, as a result, many stopped posting. The forum was almost dead when I was asked to take over and I was very pleased that they came back - some under different usernames.
I was asked to moderate here a very long time ago but I decided to decline the kind offer. I knew it often seems to cause the "moderatees" to turn their angst against the moderator himself, rather than against those they were previously chastising. Seems to me that some forget there are real people behind the forum usernames. This is often the case on another forum on which I do moderate and life is really too short; so I greatly appreciate the efforts of those who do choose to "pick up the torch" here!
I've never yet been banned from any forum (probably come close a few times) but I have certainly had a few posts deleted. Whether or not I felt it was justified I always make a point of never complaining about it. Unlike some who almost want to come to physical violence when they are so "affronted" by a moderator who after all, is only doing voluntary work.