UK NPAS discussion thread: Mk 4
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It's up to the Public now.....
"The Public" haven't got a clue what happened with the Mandation of NPAS,
they haven't got a clue what happens now on a daily basis with NPAS,
and haven't got a clue what is going to happen with NPAS in the future.
Mr. Apter got one thing right in that Interview though : "It's an absolute disgrace"

Nail
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Well closing of N Wales or Hawarden is going to be decided in the next two weeks. 
To be fair to NPAS: They couldn't possibly have known that this round of cuts would be as big as it is. They played what they were dealt with.
So are we now looking at :
(a) 15 units of which "X" will be FW? The MET have joined which will mean an instant saving of "Y" by cutting the number of their cabs down by one and changing the old 145's to new 135's. Perhaps 1 x 135 and 1 x FW for them then???
(b) 24/7 for all.
(c) Mass civilianisation of TFO's

To be fair to NPAS: They couldn't possibly have known that this round of cuts would be as big as it is. They played what they were dealt with.
So are we now looking at :
(a) 15 units of which "X" will be FW? The MET have joined which will mean an instant saving of "Y" by cutting the number of their cabs down by one and changing the old 145's to new 135's. Perhaps 1 x 135 and 1 x FW for them then???
(b) 24/7 for all.
(c) Mass civilianisation of TFO's
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From: Devon
This is the new circle map for the new NPAS planks based in eeh by gum country.
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/polopoly...uk_circles.gif
Will they be using static balloons similar to the afghan thermal camera set up next. Coming to a town near you. Tethered balloon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/polopoly...uk_circles.gif
Will they be using static balloons similar to the afghan thermal camera set up next. Coming to a town near you. Tethered balloon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Cabby
That might be difficult
They ripped up the runway at Sheffield yonks ago.
Perhaps you will need to find another airport in ee by gum land to fit your prophesy? Something operated by [Sir Robert ] Peel perhaps?
The old chap must be spinning in his grave by now. No cops, no cop shops, no helipads... what next!
Mind you great idea about static balloons as long as they can get a protocol in place that does not require a pilot to let the string out..... Meanwhile we may forget the debacle that resulted from Greater Manchester Police owning just such a device not so long ago.
That might be difficult
They ripped up the runway at Sheffield yonks ago.
Perhaps you will need to find another airport in ee by gum land to fit your prophesy? Something operated by [Sir Robert ] Peel perhaps?
The old chap must be spinning in his grave by now. No cops, no cop shops, no helipads... what next!

Mind you great idea about static balloons as long as they can get a protocol in place that does not require a pilot to let the string out..... Meanwhile we may forget the debacle that resulted from Greater Manchester Police owning just such a device not so long ago.
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I get that there MAY be savings to be had, but at what point do we look at the map and say that's it, any less and the coverage is compromised to such an extent that the user, therefore the customer just says no thanks. A quick look at the current NPAS map suggests a bit of trimming could be made but from somebody on the outside looking in, I am struggling to see how the bases will cover the main areas of the UK in a TIMELY fashion and therefore stay relevant. Keep up the good work either way.
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From: Devon
There's a bit of the runway left at Sheffield
As for the balloons may be a drone or two are what the higher ups are thinking about.
The interactive map made me wonder which they have their eye on.
Listening to some reports there are odds being given on the following 5 bases being given the chop in no particular order.
1.Birmingham
2.Hawarden
3.Benson
4.Sheffield
5.Durham Tees Valley
Was talk of Boreham if the MET were onboard in time.
Just rumours of course. NPAS Bases Interactive Map | NPAS
As for the balloons may be a drone or two are what the higher ups are thinking about.The interactive map made me wonder which they have their eye on.
Listening to some reports there are odds being given on the following 5 bases being given the chop in no particular order.
1.Birmingham
2.Hawarden
3.Benson
4.Sheffield
5.Durham Tees Valley
Was talk of Boreham if the MET were onboard in time.
Just rumours of course. NPAS Bases Interactive Map | NPAS
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From: Down south
Rumours
That list is very different to the lists being rumoured around different bases! No point spreading rumours as nobody but top bods really know. We'll find out in just over a week anyway!
Cabby was asking earlier what happens to the PC's when pilots go sick.
Answer : they can go home (but take annual leave) they can stay in the office and do paperwork or like happened our way recently, they can go out on patrol in a vehicle. Two burglars got caught by two TFO's not that long ago who were patrolling due to poor weather.
The crews can do what they want. Some are more motivated than others!
Cabby was asking earlier what happens to the PC's when pilots go sick.
Answer : they can go home (but take annual leave) they can stay in the office and do paperwork or like happened our way recently, they can go out on patrol in a vehicle. Two burglars got caught by two TFO's not that long ago who were patrolling due to poor weather.

The crews can do what they want. Some are more motivated than others!
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From: Devon
Its gone a bit quiet on this thread. Have NPAS banned staff from posting 
What happens to staff who may be located at one of the rumoured bases which may be closing.
Are there many empty posts at other NPAS bases with the previous comments about shifts being lost due to the lack of pilots?

What happens to staff who may be located at one of the rumoured bases which may be closing.
Are there many empty posts at other NPAS bases with the previous comments about shifts being lost due to the lack of pilots?
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Cabby, it's a simple matter of no-one, apart from 'the management', knows anything.
… if we are banned from posting, remember;
… if we are banned from posting, remember;

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Not so much banned as
I believe that there are a few.
"encouraged not to speculate on social media."
Are there many empty posts at other NPAS bases with the previous comments about shifts being lost due to the lack of pilots?




