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Old 14th Nov 2014, 10:01
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I am pretty sure that registraion along with I-RAIQ are temporary registrations issued to newly produced AW aircraft.

Both registrations feature on numerous airframes.
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Old 14th Nov 2014, 13:40
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Presumably, this tip is from the post by Vermeer on scramble.nl, dated 27th October 2014. (I-EASS is definitely an AW temporary that has appeared on other 139s.)

Vermeer also lists three AW189 in his spotting report which, unfortunately, is an indicator for him knowing the difference and I-EASS indeed being a 139.

So, if we therefore assume that it is a correct type identification, what possible reasons could there be for new production of such a 139 other than Plan B2 (B1 = S-92) being in operation to accommodate AW189 lateness on the MAIN contract for the UK SAR Helicopter Service?

- Incorrect identification of the colour scheme and branding by Vermeer
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Please fill in the blanks.

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Old 14th Nov 2014, 18:22
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That SAR Chap - thank you
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 16:19
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Bristow had previously said in its financial briefings on SAR-H that if the AW189 was not ready, AW139s could stand in temporarily.
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 17:03
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Where are they going to magic a bunch of UKSAR spec 139s from though?
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 21:59
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see post 1213 ^^^^^^!
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 22:29
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Well they are going to need up to 8 to cover Inverness, Manston, St Athan and Prestwick next year - any spotters seen that many??
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 23:24
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I can't say that I have seen any 139's... But I have seen another Coastguard 189 at Norwich





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Old 17th Nov 2014, 23:58
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Nice work MATE!

I note with considerable interest the detailed working items fitted on this aircraft and not on PT5 (I-PTFF). Also that it carries a registration that is a known AW temporary pre-delivery reg. The first aircraft production is known to be an Italian build.





Anyone seen certification?
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Old 18th Nov 2014, 08:03
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So the Italians have built one SAR Cab, it is now down to AW's UK plant to build the rest!
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Old 18th Nov 2014, 10:17
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Has it been decided what the colour scheme will be for the civil SAR? Will it just be the Coastguard one? It is pretty important that the public can recognise it quickly when they might otherwise expect a yellow one!
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Old 18th Nov 2014, 11:37
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O & W,
I think that it's the W in the AW that might be the problem. I hope they have changed there ways from the days when the MoD fed them royaly. Not only in producing the goods but also the spares backup. Fingers crossed on that one.
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I don't think the colour will matter much if you wanting help. It didn't seem to be a problem at Lee or Portland. I guess in Scotland there was plenty of news items when the 'new' coastguard service started many years ago.
Also there have been a number of programs on TV where the colours of all the services have been well aired. I would say not a problem.

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Old 18th Nov 2014, 12:46
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A Question....Considering that the new helicopters are going to be carrying out rescues in the mountains, seas, disasters overland. Is the new service still going to be known as Coastguard Rescue Helicopters or something else?

I might have missed this answer way back in this thread..
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Old 18th Nov 2014, 15:53
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The photos at the top of this page offer a bit of a clue.
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Old 18th Nov 2014, 20:21
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Originally Posted by mmitch View Post
Has it been decided what the colour scheme will be for the civil SAR? Will it just be the Coastguard one? It is pretty important that the public can recognise it quickly when they might otherwise expect a yellow one!
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Or grey and red.

Even we Antipodeans know that UK SAR has had colours other than yellow for many, many decades
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Old 19th Nov 2014, 07:05
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Just nowhere near as many aircraft as the yellow ones
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Old 19th Nov 2014, 08:32
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Old 19th Nov 2014, 11:00
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Nice one John.
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Old 19th Nov 2014, 13:33
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Old 19th Nov 2014, 13:51
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I wasn't asking about colour, and the Coastguard is an organisation which does what it says on the box. Guards the coast, are they going to still hold the title of coastguard helicopters even though less than half of all rescues will be over sea!
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