PC in EASA world on FAA A/C?

[fokkerpilot]

Hi,

Is it any problem in EASA world (EASA licence) to make the yearly Proficiency Check on an aircraft that is registered outside EASA, in this case I would like to do it on a FAA aircraft located in Europe.
Is it possible or can the local CAA office say it has to be done on an EASA registered aircraft?

Thanks
Dave

[Thorond0r]

You can not. Easa license for easa aircraft. Easa examiner can only check you in easa aircraft

[GoodGrief]

Can be done on any ICAO registered aircraft provided you're certified to act as PIC by the country of registration.The TRE has to be JAR/EASA certified, of course.

[FullTravelFree]

Thousands (probably tenthousands) of JAR licenses have been issued
based on flighttraining done on N-reg.

There should be no problems to do this, unless the new EASA rules prevents this.
I doubt that, but a call/mail to your local CAA will clarify.

Goodluck

[Curtis E Carr]

You can not. Easa license for easa aircraft. Easa examiner can only check you in easa aircraft

Can you provide the reference for this statement, please?

[sapperkenno]

If either you or the examiner has an FAA pilot certificate enabling them to be PIC of the aircraft for the flight in question, then all is well.

[hueyracer]

Thousands (probably tenthousands) of JAR licenses have been issued
based on flighttraining done on N-reg.

AFAIK, there are special rules for this under JAR-allowing flight schools in foreign (non-JAA) countries to instruct on non-JAA helicopters; and the JAA CAA would accept these hours.

At least the German CAA (LBA) does NOT accept ANY flight hours flown on a non-JAA registered helicopter (other than the above mentioned flight school hours)...

[fokkerpilot]

We are not talking about Training here, it's only the proficiency check that is done many times by a local PC examiner not nessecary conected to any flight school.

[fokkerpilot]

Sapperkenno, there is no requirement to have a FAA license to fly a FAA aircraft as PIC if you have an EASA license with rating and fly in the country where the license was issued, right?

Thanks
Dave

[Curtis E Carr]

From CFRs Title 14 Part 61

§ 61.3 Requirement for certificates, ratings, and authorizations.

(a) Pilot certificate. No person may serve as a required pilot flight crewmember of a civil aircraft of the United States, unless that person—

(1) Has a pilot certificate or special purpose pilot authorization issued under this part in that person's physical possession or readily accessible in the aircraft when exercising the privileges of that pilot certificate or authorization. However, when the aircraft is operated within a foreign country, a pilot license issued by that country may be used; and

(2) Has a photo identification that is in that person's physical possession or readily accessible in the aircraft when exercising the privileges of that pilot certificate or authorization. The photo identification must be a: [etc etc]

[md 600 driver]

Fokerpilot

Hmm surely that has been amended now ,as a easa licence is issued in easa land ,not the specific country it was issued in ,

otherwise that would be against easa laws with every easa country being equal

[Curtis E Carr]

Whilst I agree that EASA is not a country, my Part-FCL licence was issued by the UK.

Therefore, and with regard to Part 61.3 (see my previous post), I interpret it as meaning that I could fly an N registered aircraft on my Part-FCL licence (subject to valid ratings, medical etc) within the UK but not, say, France.

[md 600 driver]

Is it issued by easa not the caa ?

My FAA licence was issued by my examiner in the uk ?

[Curtis E Carr]

As I indicated, the above is my interpretation. Implicit in that statement is that I may be wrong.

However, it is certainly true that JAR licences were not acceptable to the US authorities for flying N registered machimes outside the licence holder's state of issue. Here is an extract of an exchange between the FAA and an individual enquiring about the validity of a Belgian-issued JAR licence for the purposse of flying a N registered aircraft outside the US:

The question presented is whether under 14 CFR §61.3(a), the pilot is permitted to operate a U.S.-registered aircraft in any foreign country in which his Belgian/JAA pilot license is recognized. As explained below, the Federal regulations under Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (14 CFR) and the U.S. obligations under Article 1 of the 1944 Convention on International Civil Aviation (the Chicago Convention)' do not permit such action.

Section 61.3(a) (1) of the Federal regulations states "when [an] aircraft is operated within a foreign country, a current pilot license issued by the country in which the aircraft is operated may be used." A strict reading of the rule requires that the country of issuance of the pilot's license match the country in which the aircraft is operated. The FAA, through an interpretation, cannot extend the meaning of "country" under § 61.3 to include JAA member States. Additionally, Article 32a of The Chicago Convention requires that a pilot license match the state of registration of the aircraft, unless a validation is made. The FAA made a specific grant of validation respecting the Belgian license whereby a U.S.-registered aircraft may only be flown within Belgium by a Belgian licensed pilot. No JAA agreement can extend that specific validation.

I have, as yet, been unable to uncover a similar ruling or opinion concerning licences issued in accordance with Part-FCL but can think of no reason why the FAA's view should be any different.