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Old 15th August 2012 | 11:14
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Leicester Crash

I heard somebody stoved in a 22 yesterday. Anyone know any details?

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Old 15th August 2012 | 11:22
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Had me going there...my 206 is based at Leicester!
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Old 15th August 2012 | 11:39
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Helicopter crash | This is Leicestershire
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Old 15th August 2012 | 14:28
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Old 15th August 2012 | 15:26
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Wow that looks really bad
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Mind you he is eating a sandwich !
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Old 15th August 2012 | 20:14
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We were tasked on our HEMS unit to it. Stood down en route as all occupants out and OK. Didn't get the details of what happened (might not be able to say if I did!)
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Old 16th August 2012 | 10:52
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Well it is not the first time BTHI has been bent a bit, I am sure it will buff out.
Good to see no one is injured.


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Old 16th August 2012 | 11:29
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I heard somebody stoved in a 22 yesterday. Anyone know any details?
Try Gatwick, flight test bookings.
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Old 16th August 2012 | 15:27
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If I understand post 9,it was only a matter of time. Currency is king, especially with some types of hele.
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Old 16th August 2012 | 17:40
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Was it not the examiner who was flying ? If so and there is now a vacancy i am happy to step in ....but not on robbos
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Old 17th August 2012 | 13:14
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Just to stop speculation in the wrong direction. I believe the Instructor/Examiner is a very very experienced heli pilot and was instructing a CPL student just prior to his test. It wasn't pilot error but some form of mechanical failure as yet to be determined by AAIB.
Luckily nobody hurt. Had it been me in the that heli - and I first soloed in it -
I'd be dead now! Congrats to the pilot(s) on a successful outcome
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Old 17th August 2012 | 14:16
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I believe the Instructor/Examiner is a very very experienced heli pilot and was instructing a CPL student just prior to his test. It wasn't pilot error but some form of mechanical failure
Correct.

I have seen the pilot statement, machanical failure, NOT pilot error.
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Old 17th August 2012 | 17:23
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Some "armchair aces" obviously think whatever the failure, they can always get the aircraft back to it's drip tray in the hangar.
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Old 17th August 2012 | 17:28
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Well done guys for walking away
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Old 19th August 2012 | 11:31
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why has nobody said or even speculated what happened ? This IS supposed to be a rumour site isnt it ?!! By the way i didnt imply it was pilot error OR failure but just stated that the examiner was flying at the time . Will be interesting to see what fell off / broke this time ............
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Old 19th August 2012 | 12:20
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Just one question,

As the student was just finishing off his cpl training, will he get charged for the flight or will the company give it to him as a free one, as you can walk away.
Imagine the scenario, not that I am implying anything to do with the above accident, but if you are flying along and the examiner / instructor is the handling pilot at the time, and they crash due to mishandling or mechanical fault, and the injuries are severe. You as a prospective Commercial pilot who has invested all their money time and effort are now wheel chair bound, I wonder the legalities that may be pursued.
Where I work at the moment, our company is taking steps that we sit in a course of their legal aviation reprensitatives that brief the crew, that in the event of an incident we know exactly what to say, and what our legal rights are and the legal procedures governing an aviation accident, which not only covers yourself...... But also the company from any little nasty lawsuit because the pilot opened his mouth.

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Old 20th August 2012 | 07:57
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Well if you are going to loose the tail rotor best to do it at 50 kts 100 ft rather than 20 kts less than 50 ft as you loose translational lift
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Old 20th August 2012 | 13:32
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Do we know who the examiner / instructor on board was?
My old CPL instructor works from Leicester.
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Old 28th August 2012 | 11:08
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Fluffy 5 interesting question

Good question deserves an answer. Peer comment will only tell if the answer passes muster!

There have been a few incidents where promising (and indebted) CPL students have been injured (or worse) - either due in part or whole to the handling pilot and/or mechanical problems.

The Examiner and the owner/operator of the heli will have the benefit and protection of aviation liability insurance, usually a minimum of £1-2m depending on type an operation (often £5-10m on turbine).

The injured CPL student (or his next of kin) will have a valid claim if the facts prove fault of Examiner and/or machine.

The aviation insurers have a commercially vested interest in minimising claims, hence maximising air safety as well as coaching operations not to admit responsibility in any accident. Some aviation insurers are also known to look for reasons to withdraw the insurance policy to cover a given claim - and they will use all available small print.

The UK Heli world has a new aviation insurer this year, and I expect premiums might actually decrease a tiny bit in the short term.... a nice thought.
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