Irish Air Corp HEMS accident
1) We all f*** up at times and makes mistakes - let's be glad no-one was hurt.
2) HEMS = Pressure - THIS CANNOT BE OVER EMPHASISED!!!!
3) I flew a lot of Powerline patrols prior to HEMS work - the 'T' pole stands out a mile to me in that aerial photo (I've even flown patrols for ESB). My powerline experience has stood me in very good stead for my wide range of onshore experience.
Would it not make sense for HEMS pilots to have some kind of powerline patrol experience / exposure prior to HEMS missions?
2) HEMS = Pressure - THIS CANNOT BE OVER EMPHASISED!!!!
3) I flew a lot of Powerline patrols prior to HEMS work - the 'T' pole stands out a mile to me in that aerial photo (I've even flown patrols for ESB). My powerline experience has stood me in very good stead for my wide range of onshore experience.
Would it not make sense for HEMS pilots to have some kind of powerline patrol experience / exposure prior to HEMS missions?
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I see no reason for you to be disappointed by my post. Read your own posts again. You have made a highly personal, almost ranting attack against the crew involved in this unfortunate accident. I thought it appropriate to post a different view, seeing as that is my true opinion of the wire strike hazard, based on my own experience.
I could give you another ten years and almost another three thousand hours if you really want to wave logbooks about. I still have to carry out ad-hoc landings on occasions (single pilot) so I still consider myself at risk from the wire strike hazard. If you fly these days, then the latter comment obviously doesn't apply to yourself - but there are others on forum to whom it definitely does.
I see no reason for you to be disappointed by my post. Read your own posts again. You have made a highly personal, almost ranting attack against the crew involved in this unfortunate accident. I thought it appropriate to post a different view, seeing as that is my true opinion of the wire strike hazard, based on my own experience.
I could give you another ten years and almost another three thousand hours if you really want to wave logbooks about. I still have to carry out ad-hoc landings on occasions (single pilot) so I still consider myself at risk from the wire strike hazard. If you fly these days, then the latter comment obviously doesn't apply to yourself - but there are others on forum to whom it definitely does.
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What about the Tail strike earlier in the same week with the same machine at that barracks!!
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Oh that bit of bad luck as well....comes with the territory it seems. Just bad luck apparently. Oh...the luck of the Irish..................
[What's it this time Shytorque: something in the water, or could it be down to DUFF pilots
[What's it this time Shytorque: something in the water, or could it be down to DUFF pilots
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What about the Tail strike earlier in the same week with the same machine at that barracks!!
Funfinn2000, can you elaborate on this incident, your sources, details on what happened etc?
What about the Tail strike earlier in the same week with the same machine at that barracks!!
Funfinn2000, can you elaborate on this incident, your sources, details on what happened etc?
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[What's it this time Shytorque: something in the water, or could it be down to DUFF pilots
Sometimes people will disagree with an extreme view, as yours appears to be.
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HEMS = Pressure - THIS CANNOT BE OVER EMPHASISED!!!!
A pilot that is put under stress (pressure) simply due to the kind of mission he is flying, is in the wrong position (if this pressure leads to false decision making-or worse).
"Being a professional" is the difference between someone who is overwhelmed by his emotions while doing something, and someone who is able to put his emotions back, to do his job....
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Stress and Pressure
Gentlemen,
It may be worth just remembering that stress and pressure are not the same thing. The UK's Health and Safety Executive (HSE) offers a good definition of stress:
"The adverse reaction people have to excessive pressures or other types of demand placed on them at work."
Now, back to the serious pilots......
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It may be worth just remembering that stress and pressure are not the same thing. The UK's Health and Safety Executive (HSE) offers a good definition of stress:
"The adverse reaction people have to excessive pressures or other types of demand placed on them at work."
Now, back to the serious pilots......
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There was am Incident when the tail hit a pole or a lamp-post, not sure how hard, no much more info. anyone else know more?
Free speed: That's because it was covered up by the Corps like a lot of other incidents that never "happened" with aircraft from Baldonnell.
So:
Was it covered up by the pilot, crewman and a civilian paramedic who would have to fly in a potentially non-airworthy heli on the next mission? Don't forget the ground crew who were legally responsible for the helicopter's airworthiness as well.
Was it reported by the crew and covered up by those who received the report i.e the MAA/Flight Safety/Operations staff who all had little or nothing to gain by covering it up?
Or perhaps it was never reported because it never actually happened in the first place?
While I am aware that this is a 'rumour' network, I think to be fair to those involved you should provide some more detail on how you know about this specific alleged incident that was not in the AAIU report.
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Funfinn2000: where did that come from? I didn't see it in the report.
Funfinn2000, can you elaborate on this incident, your sources, details on what happened etc?
Your answer clarified things from my perspective. As I said...it is a rumour network after all. Fair enough.
The second question was about the allegation in post #87 of a cover up by the Air Corps. That's a whole different thing. I was simply asking to what level this supposed cover up reached?
I don't think that it's fair to the pilots and crews who operate this service and are helping people on a daily basis, and who don't deserve to have such an allegation leveled against them.
Freespeed, read the entire thread from beginning to end to see there is no smoke without fire when it comes to this element of the Irish Air Corps.
It may be (hopefully) that they have cleaned their act up and for that to happen - takes time. This recent 'debacle' may have slowed the whole process down a little.............
It may be (hopefully) that they have cleaned their act up and for that to happen - takes time. This recent 'debacle' may have slowed the whole process down a little.............
