Top of the World: photos from Nepal
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At a guess your 23K limit could be your Starter/Generator.
Temp limits versus cooling capacity and insulation breakdown.
During certification nobody really expected people to operate at higher than that?
Oh! Hang on a minute.
Temp limits versus cooling capacity and insulation breakdown.
During certification nobody really expected people to operate at higher than that?
Oh! Hang on a minute.
Dang another airstrip (Dang)
stay upright, keep it in da green & be Happy 
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Namaste VF,
Curious? WIngs level, big altitudes(20 000+), 60 knots to hover, calm air.
Do you ever notice a cyclic pitch input tends to be "perceptibly" accompanied with roll? Finding yourself having to "j hook" or steer a little left/right with cyclic movements to get a straight forward pitch response.
Climbing out from Kathmandu to Chomolungma , any weird surprises with cyclic directional control that increases with altitude. Such as left cyclic inputs becoming the new forward cyclic at extreme altitude?
Apart from increasing mushiness and your subliminal "oneness" with the machine, is it pretty much business as usual , the cyclic goes where your mind...I mean hand points it?
Or does the squirrel seem to get a little more "squirrelly" with altitude?
No question, it takes a big set of nuts to keep it working up there!
Curious? WIngs level, big altitudes(20 000+), 60 knots to hover, calm air.
Do you ever notice a cyclic pitch input tends to be "perceptibly" accompanied with roll? Finding yourself having to "j hook" or steer a little left/right with cyclic movements to get a straight forward pitch response.
Climbing out from Kathmandu to Chomolungma , any weird surprises with cyclic directional control that increases with altitude. Such as left cyclic inputs becoming the new forward cyclic at extreme altitude?
Apart from increasing mushiness and your subliminal "oneness" with the machine, is it pretty much business as usual , the cyclic goes where your mind...I mean hand points it?
Or does the squirrel seem to get a little more "squirrelly" with altitude?
No question, it takes a big set of nuts to keep it working up there!
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From: Top of the World
Shiver.me.timber
Oye Frotz......I'll stick to Petrol thanks, been working fine for the past 30 odd years, I'm Happy, fill 'er up wid Petrol, cheers big-ears 
thanks will pass dat on 
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G'day Washeduprotorgypsy........At 60knots+ I only user da shtick for speed related attitudes (fore&aft), all turning is done wid da Pedals, unless I'm trying to appease a Camera Jockey. Then it's a cluster of jumbled cross controls & like
Yes mushiness does increase with height gained 
I always thought of Her as a cranky Koala that I placate with gentle kind inputs 
I think the Missus is happy wid me go nads 
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G'day Washeduprotorgypsy........At 60knots+ I only user da shtick for speed related attitudes (fore&aft), all turning is done wid da Pedals, unless I'm trying to appease a Camera Jockey. Then it's a cluster of jumbled cross controls & like
Yes mushiness does increase with height gained I always thought of Her as a cranky Koala that I placate with gentle kind inputs I think the Missus is happy wid me go nads
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WoW Faktor
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From: Australia
Oye Frotz......I'll stick to Petrol thanks, been working fine for the past 30 odd years, I'm Happy, fill 'er up wid Petrol, cheers big-ears thanks will pass dat on
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G'day Washeduprotorgypsy........At 60knots+ I only user da shtick for speed related attitudes (fore&aft), all turning is done wid da Pedals, unless I'm trying to appease a Camera Jockey. Then it's a cluster of jumbled cross controls & like Yes mushiness does increase with height gained I always thought of Her as a cranky Koala that I placate with gentle kind inputs I think the Missus is happy wid me go nads
thanks will pass dat on -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
G'day Washeduprotorgypsy........At 60knots+ I only user da shtick for speed related attitudes (fore&aft), all turning is done wid da Pedals, unless I'm trying to appease a Camera Jockey. Then it's a cluster of jumbled cross controls & like
Yes mushiness does increase with height gained I always thought of Her as a cranky Koala that I placate with gentle kind inputs I think the Missus is happy wid me go nads 
Life is like a box of chocolates............
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From: UK
HEy Vr.
How high do you land the bell 206 at?
And how many pax on board and how much fuel when you land at high altitude ?
next week I’m suppose to do a job with landings at about 12.5k in isa+10 conditions.
Usually I land at the 10.5k pad with 3 pob total including me and up to 45 USG.
I’m thinking to limit my fuel to 20 - 25 USG for landings at 12.5k with three souls on board.
What do you think ?
How high do you land the bell 206 at?
And how many pax on board and how much fuel when you land at high altitude ?
next week I’m suppose to do a job with landings at about 12.5k in isa+10 conditions.
Usually I land at the 10.5k pad with 3 pob total including me and up to 45 USG.
I’m thinking to limit my fuel to 20 - 25 USG for landings at 12.5k with three souls on board.
What do you think ?
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From: Top of the World
Down...down...deeeper & down
G'day haihio....highest in the JetBanger for me, has been 16,215' ISA +22º 1 x PAX & 15 usgals of Petrol (Fritz) 3 x SLB's @ 12,500' is pretty dang serious Mate....remember the Geni off trick for the take-off roll 
& do a power check at 52kts pre committing 
1 x PAX & 15 usgals of Petrol (Fritz) 3 x SLB's @ 12,500' is pretty dang serious Mate....remember the Geni off trick for the take-off roll & do a power check at 52kts pre committing
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From: Nanaimo, B.C.
Lift?
Just looking at that last pic makes me wonder. No doubt you encounter lots of lift and sink areas in the mountains - do you heli folks use the lift to help gain altitude? And sink to help you descend?
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From: Top of the World
Down...down...deeeper & down
G'day there dash34.....You betcha we do, well at least the updrafts for faster climbing downdraft though....naaaar F that toooo scary 
You can get 1,000' even 2,000fpm free climbing bonus, added to Your climbing by utilizing the right updrafts
downdraft though....naaaar F that toooo scary You can get 1,000' even 2,000fpm free climbing bonus, added to Your climbing by utilizing the right updrafts
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From: Top of the World
that's incredibubble'
Hey SRFred............Manaslu advance base camp, coming down from camp IV, ROD 3,000'+
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Morning haihio...........Your welcome; please let me know how she performed?
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Morning haihio...........Your welcome; please let me know how she performed?
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Job done!
I landed 6 Times at 12.3k in isa +10 conditions with the bell 206. I restricted the weight to one pax plus his paraglider (approx 25 kg). Fuel when landing was about 18 usg.
I had a stiff headwind with light turbulence so by keeping it pointing into wind all the time, believe it or not, I landed with the TOT in the green! I only got close to the Tot limit when counteracting for ( scary) downdrafts on approach.
I was landing on the summit plateau of Mt Kinabalu in Malaysian Borneo.
I landed 6 Times at 12.3k in isa +10 conditions with the bell 206. I restricted the weight to one pax plus his paraglider (approx 25 kg). Fuel when landing was about 18 usg.
I had a stiff headwind with light turbulence so by keeping it pointing into wind all the time, believe it or not, I landed with the TOT in the green! I only got close to the Tot limit when counteracting for ( scary) downdrafts on approach.
I was landing on the summit plateau of Mt Kinabalu in Malaysian Borneo.
