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Yes Griffo, the Schreiner Rauschach ink blot test. Fortunately I googled it beforehand and was told what to say but you are right - everyone of them looks like female genitalia - or as far as I remember.
What amused me is when the psychologist looked at me and asked in all seriousness "Have you ever thought of killing yourself or anyone else?" I was tempted to ask if it would affect my chances of employment if I said "Yes".
I passed the Schreiner tests but when I look back I sincerely doubt my sanity at the time because I went through it all to get a job in Nigeria.
What amused me is when the psychologist looked at me and asked in all seriousness "Have you ever thought of killing yourself or anyone else?" I was tempted to ask if it would affect my chances of employment if I said "Yes".
I passed the Schreiner tests but when I look back I sincerely doubt my sanity at the time because I went through it all to get a job in Nigeria.
When the guy suggested I had a weakness for pornography.....he got mad as hell when I suggested he was the one showing it to me and I was only looking at it....and he was the one that owned the stuff.
I would have failed the test if thinking of killing someone was a pass/fail issue....two tours in Vietnam and seven years as a Police Officer certainly provides for that train of thought now and then.
I would think "controlling the action" and not just having the thought would be more important. Do they ask you if you have in fact killed someone?
Also...I reckon if you are there for the interview....they can figure out on their own you have not killed your own self.
I would have failed the test if thinking of killing someone was a pass/fail issue....two tours in Vietnam and seven years as a Police Officer certainly provides for that train of thought now and then.
I would think "controlling the action" and not just having the thought would be more important. Do they ask you if you have in fact killed someone?
Also...I reckon if you are there for the interview....they can figure out on their own you have not killed your own self.
A friend of mine did them in Norway...
Mr. Lars asked him if he found his own mother "sek-sually attractive"...
Apparently the tests are virtually copies if not literal copies of what the RNoAF uses for selection to their pilot training.
He (both psychologists) claim that the test will tell wether you are suited to be a pilot or not, "And they are very good at what they do"...
I am inclined to agree with previous posters that it is a great scheme to get money from the companies that use them.
Cheers
W.
Mr. Lars asked him if he found his own mother "sek-sually attractive"...
Apparently the tests are virtually copies if not literal copies of what the RNoAF uses for selection to their pilot training.
He (both psychologists) claim that the test will tell wether you are suited to be a pilot or not, "And they are very good at what they do"...
I am inclined to agree with previous posters that it is a great scheme to get money from the companies that use them.
Cheers
W.
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CHC testing
Just to clear up some of the bull recently posted in this thead ...
CHC (Norway) screening process involves the following:
1. Written theoretical tests. The link below being pretty much in the ballpark.
Test and Interview
2. Interview with a psycologist, that also administers the tests listed in link above. No Psycometric personality testing whatsoever.
3. Trip to the local MD for a basic check.
4. Simulator flying skills test. Basic 2 hour full flight simulator slot, involving basic airwork and instrument maneuvers. Conducted by senior company instructor pilots. (Replaces chief pilot trip in the aircraft)
5. Panel interview. Panel consists of members of company management, chief pilot, and pilots union rep.
Thats it. No hocus pocus or naked butterflies...
Torcher
CHC (Norway) screening process involves the following:
1. Written theoretical tests. The link below being pretty much in the ballpark.
Test and Interview
2. Interview with a psycologist, that also administers the tests listed in link above. No Psycometric personality testing whatsoever.
3. Trip to the local MD for a basic check.
4. Simulator flying skills test. Basic 2 hour full flight simulator slot, involving basic airwork and instrument maneuvers. Conducted by senior company instructor pilots. (Replaces chief pilot trip in the aircraft)
5. Panel interview. Panel consists of members of company management, chief pilot, and pilots union rep.
Thats it. No hocus pocus or naked butterflies...
Torcher
Is this like an initiation test of some sort (referring to the linked testing scheme)....to see if the candidate will put up with a load of horse hit to prove they really...really...really want the job?
What about treating the individual like the "Professional" they have proven themselves to be by achieving the level of expertise demonstrated by their Licenses, Logbook, Medical Certification, Education and Resume' content?
If it was a young Whipper Snapper with a fresh CPL/IF right out of a training school perhaps....but what about the well experienced older candidate who might very well have had a career in the Military or perhaps a well experienced proven Professional?
It sounds like HR crap to me........and I am sure it would have weeded me out in short order....long before I got to the pencil tapping.
Don't the folks in Scandinavia have a higher Suicide rate than most other Europeans?
How did this testing become a part of the Interview process...whose the person(s) that made that decision and what was the basis for that I wonder?
Do all CHC Employees have to go through this testing or just the Pilots?
The majority of the Helicopter Industry is far too transient for such a system to work Industry wide and I believe the majority of the Industry is smart enough to know that.
If it is weeding out of potentially bad employees...the Interview, Sim Ride, and Background Check should pretty well take care of it. All the Pencil Tapping in the World will not be as effective as a two hour Sim ride in determining the fitness of the candidate for the job he is being considered for.
What about treating the individual like the "Professional" they have proven themselves to be by achieving the level of expertise demonstrated by their Licenses, Logbook, Medical Certification, Education and Resume' content?
If it was a young Whipper Snapper with a fresh CPL/IF right out of a training school perhaps....but what about the well experienced older candidate who might very well have had a career in the Military or perhaps a well experienced proven Professional?
It sounds like HR crap to me........and I am sure it would have weeded me out in short order....long before I got to the pencil tapping.
Don't the folks in Scandinavia have a higher Suicide rate than most other Europeans?
How did this testing become a part of the Interview process...whose the person(s) that made that decision and what was the basis for that I wonder?
Do all CHC Employees have to go through this testing or just the Pilots?
The majority of the Helicopter Industry is far too transient for such a system to work Industry wide and I believe the majority of the Industry is smart enough to know that.
If it is weeding out of potentially bad employees...the Interview, Sim Ride, and Background Check should pretty well take care of it. All the Pencil Tapping in the World will not be as effective as a two hour Sim ride in determining the fitness of the candidate for the job he is being considered for.
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I'm worried now, having read all this criticism.
Some years ago I was required to undergo psychometric testing....
..........and out of 200 applicants, I got the job.
Some years ago I was required to undergo psychometric testing....
..........and out of 200 applicants, I got the job.
"The State rests its case Your Honour!"
Were you the only one that sat through the entire process by chance?
Were you the only one that sat through the entire process by chance?
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Drat, I've just got a job based (in part) on a similar evaluation...I'm starting to wonder, too!
I'm not looney, I'm not looney...the voices promised I wasn't!
I'm not looney, I'm not looney...the voices promised I wasn't!
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"The State rests its case Your Honour!"
Were you the only one that sat through the entire process by chance?
Were you the only one that sat through the entire process by chance?
I only applied for the job of the janitor; I suppose they really should've checked to see if I had a pilot's licence. Never mind, so far I seem to be picking up the job as I go along.
My favorite flying job was for an outfit that was called "Hum and Fake It Air"....by our passengers and owner. Stemmed from a reply to a nervous flyer when on a very stark clear day during a flight from Portland, Oregon to a big Ranch in British Columbia/Yukon Territories somewhere up North. No maps in hand...Pilots lazily gazing out the Perspex admiring the view of all the snow covered mountains....and the silly fellow getting all worried about how the guys knew where they were...and how to find where they were going.
The Pilot....actually the Chief Pilot....turned to him finally after being asked the third time about the maps and such....."Oh....we don't really....but sooner or later we will see something we recognize...until then...we just Hum and Fake It!"
I don't reckon all this fancy psycho measuring would work for an outfit with such an attitude towards operations and passengers.....far to human for all that psycho babble I am sure.
The Pilot....actually the Chief Pilot....turned to him finally after being asked the third time about the maps and such....."Oh....we don't really....but sooner or later we will see something we recognize...until then...we just Hum and Fake It!"
I don't reckon all this fancy psycho measuring would work for an outfit with such an attitude towards operations and passengers.....far to human for all that psycho babble I am sure.
Several years ago I approached CHC with a view to transferring to them as an "instant captain", having survived a few decades in command on North Sea operations and having fooled our training establishment countless times that I'm just barely up to the required standard.
My only reason for wanting to jump ship then was because it seemed as though my employer might be looking to give a few of us the chop, due to our advanced senility and dribbling incontinence ( not to mention that we were all on top-scale salaries). Fortunately the law of the land changed and my employer is still saddled with us.
The very nice man at CHC was looking for pilots with experience on the "right" type of helicopter at that time and suggested that I might have been given command a few months after joining. He also implied that it might not be necessary to go through the interview and tests with their resident trickcyclist.
Fortunately none of this came to pass, because I'm certain that I would have been assessed as hopelessly unsuitable to be employed in their workforce of psychologically well-balanced and well-accomplished pilots. My decades of professional flying, including a decade in the military, would have counted for little and if I was very lucky he might have recommended that I consider a career in HR.
If this pschological hocus pocus is so necessary to weed out those hopelessly unbalanced candidates like me, why does my employer not see fit also to employ one of these psycho-magicians and why does my employer still rely on the tried and trusted interview panel of senior trainers/manager pilots who depend only on their gut-feelings and experience?
Phrases like "bull**** baffles brains" and "if you believe that, you'll believe anything" come to mind. No amount of attempted persuasion is going to convince me that exposing a pilot candidate's sexual peccadilloes is going to indicate his/her suitability for the job.
My only reason for wanting to jump ship then was because it seemed as though my employer might be looking to give a few of us the chop, due to our advanced senility and dribbling incontinence ( not to mention that we were all on top-scale salaries). Fortunately the law of the land changed and my employer is still saddled with us.
The very nice man at CHC was looking for pilots with experience on the "right" type of helicopter at that time and suggested that I might have been given command a few months after joining. He also implied that it might not be necessary to go through the interview and tests with their resident trickcyclist.
Fortunately none of this came to pass, because I'm certain that I would have been assessed as hopelessly unsuitable to be employed in their workforce of psychologically well-balanced and well-accomplished pilots. My decades of professional flying, including a decade in the military, would have counted for little and if I was very lucky he might have recommended that I consider a career in HR.
If this pschological hocus pocus is so necessary to weed out those hopelessly unbalanced candidates like me, why does my employer not see fit also to employ one of these psycho-magicians and why does my employer still rely on the tried and trusted interview panel of senior trainers/manager pilots who depend only on their gut-feelings and experience?
Phrases like "bull**** baffles brains" and "if you believe that, you'll believe anything" come to mind. No amount of attempted persuasion is going to convince me that exposing a pilot candidate's sexual peccadilloes is going to indicate his/her suitability for the job.
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hi everybody,
I'm new-bee. especially when it comes to testing. never had an interview so far but I'll have one soon in aberdeen. can someone give me an advice. what is bristow testing and what CHC. does anybody 've been there lately. what is the best way to prepare?
for any help (pm), grateful
sue
I'm new-bee. especially when it comes to testing. never had an interview so far but I'll have one soon in aberdeen. can someone give me an advice. what is bristow testing and what CHC. does anybody 've been there lately. what is the best way to prepare?
for any help (pm), grateful
sue
