View Poll Results: Would you buy a Rotorheads Around the World book of photos?
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Rotorheads Photo Book
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Rotorheads Photo Book
Will you buy? (Vote 'yes' in the poll!) Poll closes 20th December 2011
We've negotiated a price for a Rotorheads book - provisional title Rotorheads Around The World unless anyone has a better suggestion!
It will cost around £20 (USD 30) plus postage for a large-format, glossy, 100-page album featuring some of the gorgeous pictures which have appeared on this thread over the years.
There's quite a lot of work involved, and before we get stuck in, we need to know how many copies you would be prepared to buy. So vote 'yes' to the poll question if you would buy a book, or multiple books. If we get enough interest, we'll go ahead and start the publishing process. It's not going to be ready by Christmas! Maybe next Christmas though....
We can't just take pictures off the RATW thread though - for printing, they need to be at their original resolution, and that means big files. The next step will be to set up an online file drop and to start asking contributors to send original files - preferably by email - together with captions and permission to publish, and their names (or Pprune usernames if they prefer).
We are particularly keen to hear from photographers who want to get their pictures into print. Send me a PM!
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We've negotiated a price for a Rotorheads book - provisional title Rotorheads Around The World unless anyone has a better suggestion!
It will cost around £20 (USD 30) plus postage for a large-format, glossy, 100-page album featuring some of the gorgeous pictures which have appeared on this thread over the years.
There's quite a lot of work involved, and before we get stuck in, we need to know how many copies you would be prepared to buy. So vote 'yes' to the poll question if you would buy a book, or multiple books. If we get enough interest, we'll go ahead and start the publishing process. It's not going to be ready by Christmas! Maybe next Christmas though....
We can't just take pictures off the RATW thread though - for printing, they need to be at their original resolution, and that means big files. The next step will be to set up an online file drop and to start asking contributors to send original files - preferably by email - together with captions and permission to publish, and their names (or Pprune usernames if they prefer).
We are particularly keen to hear from photographers who want to get their pictures into print. Send me a PM!
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I'd be interested in one copy but please be aware that, on JetBlast, there was a "rumpus" when a Ppruner wanted to publish a book, asked for money up front and no book was forthcoming.
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Don't worry, I'm not going to take anyone's money until there's an actual stack of physical books, some time in the future... Maybe a photo of the stack will help?
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There are services where one uploads the book to a book publisher's website, then joe public can order them. Make Your Own Book, Create a Book Online, Custom Books is one of them. That way, no one's collecting money in advance etc.
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That's true, but all the online services I've seen so far are several times more expensive than the old-fashioned print works in my town!
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Why not combine it with a selection of tales and yarns?, there have been some stunningly funny posts on this forum - I'm thinking of SASless' advice on flying in areas containing bears and the many AAC stories 
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I agree that it would be nice to support a charity through this effort, and suggest Fly2help
Sadly, money doesn't grow on trees around me, and I will need to cover my costs, but I will arrange for 10% of the total proceeds to go to this cause.
Moreover, if any generous Ppruners step up to the plate to cover printing costs and distribution, then I would be delighted to give the entire proceeds to our chosen charity.
I am in the process of setting up a special mailbox for photographers to contribute their work, together with a copyright release statement and any captions and credits they can add - I hope that every picture will tell a story!
Sadly, money doesn't grow on trees around me, and I will need to cover my costs, but I will arrange for 10% of the total proceeds to go to this cause.
Moreover, if any generous Ppruners step up to the plate to cover printing costs and distribution, then I would be delighted to give the entire proceeds to our chosen charity.
I am in the process of setting up a special mailbox for photographers to contribute their work, together with a copyright release statement and any captions and credits they can add - I hope that every picture will tell a story!
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Oops, I should have seen that objection coming!
I'm not going to try to be the United Nations here. We'll print the book, offer it at a price, and make the charity part optional. Then you can go with the chosen charity, or save some cash and donate it to your own favourite charity. Or not donate at all, if you're feeling flinty...
I'm not going to try to be the United Nations here. We'll print the book, offer it at a price, and make the charity part optional. Then you can go with the chosen charity, or save some cash and donate it to your own favourite charity. Or not donate at all, if you're feeling flinty...
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Let's get stuck in!
Photographers:
If you want to see your picture in print, looking lovely, please email it to me at [email protected]
Bear in mind that printing will need the best resolution you can manage - certainly no picture should be smaller than 1MB and you may have to use several emails to send several pictures!
Please copy and paste the following text into your email, and fill in as much detail as possible - names, dates and stories all help the pictures come to life.
Thank you!
If you want to see your picture in print, looking lovely, please email it to me at [email protected]
Bear in mind that printing will need the best resolution you can manage - certainly no picture should be smaller than 1MB and you may have to use several emails to send several pictures!
Please copy and paste the following text into your email, and fill in as much detail as possible - names, dates and stories all help the pictures come to life.
Thank you!
I allow Benet Allen to use the attached photograph(s) for the purpose of publishing a book to be offered for sale principally via the forum at PPRuNe Forums.
--OR--
I release the attached photograph(s) into the public domain via the license at Creative Commons
DATE:
CREDIT:
CAPTION:
--OR--
I release the attached photograph(s) into the public domain via the license at Creative Commons
DATE:
CREDIT:
CAPTION:
Your release needs to be a bit more specific too. i.e. state the name of the published book and full details of what the pics will be used for only...
is a bit open for you to use the pics for what ever you want.
I release the attached photograph(s) into the public domain via the license at Creative Commons
This needs to be managed professionally as a reflection upon the mainly professional contributions which comprise PPRuNe's most successful thread and as Flyting has mentioned; photographer's permissions should be specifically limited to use in the proposed publication.
Why are people making these comments along with concerns over the management of potential profits? Here's my interpretation: The material has accumulated over many years and is the product of numerous and diverse contributions. If a publisher employed a photographer to go travel the world, snap away at helos and return with their own material that would be one thing - they could and should do whatever they want. But, this is not this case. The material has been assembled voluntarily with the most 'innocent' of intentions .. so share experiences with fellow members of the Rotorheads community. It is only reasonable therefore that those who have followed the development of RATW should be keen to protect contributors from potential exploitation.
Some may be wondering about profit. Say you make £7 clear profit per book and sell 1,000 copies .. you have £7,000. Not a great deal of money but .. say the publication is a success and sells 5,000 copies with a £4.50 profit margin .. now you are up into twenty plus thousand. Still not a great deal of money but it is not reasonable to expect members of the Rotorheads community to simply sit back and watch any individual reap the rewards of what in reality is the product of other peoples efforts.
If it were up to me I would:
1) Openly publish a full statement of account once the first print run is completed.
2) Set up a 'Rotorheads' account into which all profit is placed.
3) Allow the 'Rotorheads Fraternity' to decide (perhaps via a poll made by members of more than 5 years standing [or other criteria]) in response to suggestions made by the same.
Regarding charities etc. allow me to share my own sentiments. I'm a firm believer that charity begins at home. In fact if this principle were applied more frequently less 'external' charity would be required.
I would like to see any profits (little or large) going directly to people connected to this forum. Is their an ex-Rotorheads member who has perished in the line of duty? Does he/she have surviving family? If so what is their situation - are they in need of assistance?
What about our Moderators. I only learned this year that the work they do is voluntary. Are they okay - do they have everything they need to carry-out their work? Could a contribution (of any kind) help them? And there are doubtless many other causes but .. I would like to see it stay within the community which fostered this material. But .. that's just me.
Why are people making these comments along with concerns over the management of potential profits? Here's my interpretation: The material has accumulated over many years and is the product of numerous and diverse contributions. If a publisher employed a photographer to go travel the world, snap away at helos and return with their own material that would be one thing - they could and should do whatever they want. But, this is not this case. The material has been assembled voluntarily with the most 'innocent' of intentions .. so share experiences with fellow members of the Rotorheads community. It is only reasonable therefore that those who have followed the development of RATW should be keen to protect contributors from potential exploitation.
Some may be wondering about profit. Say you make £7 clear profit per book and sell 1,000 copies .. you have £7,000. Not a great deal of money but .. say the publication is a success and sells 5,000 copies with a £4.50 profit margin .. now you are up into twenty plus thousand. Still not a great deal of money but it is not reasonable to expect members of the Rotorheads community to simply sit back and watch any individual reap the rewards of what in reality is the product of other peoples efforts.
If it were up to me I would:
1) Openly publish a full statement of account once the first print run is completed.
2) Set up a 'Rotorheads' account into which all profit is placed.
3) Allow the 'Rotorheads Fraternity' to decide (perhaps via a poll made by members of more than 5 years standing [or other criteria]) in response to suggestions made by the same.
Regarding charities etc. allow me to share my own sentiments. I'm a firm believer that charity begins at home. In fact if this principle were applied more frequently less 'external' charity would be required.
I would like to see any profits (little or large) going directly to people connected to this forum. Is their an ex-Rotorheads member who has perished in the line of duty? Does he/she have surviving family? If so what is their situation - are they in need of assistance?
What about our Moderators. I only learned this year that the work they do is voluntary. Are they okay - do they have everything they need to carry-out their work? Could a contribution (of any kind) help them? And there are doubtless many other causes but .. I would like to see it stay within the community which fostered this material. But .. that's just me.
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A logical solution would be get the final quote, which could be for example $2000 Pounds. Anything over that goes to an air ambulance charity that all members of the group here vote on. I would say pick the UK based ones since the majority of members are in the UK.
Since all members here have one thing at heart, and thats the support of the helo industry, an air ambulance charity would be the ideal recipient. Or even choose three or four and spread the profits around but then you end up with only giving a small amount to some of them rather than a larger amount to one of them. Just go with whichever one gets the most votes on Rotorheads.
The problem with deciding which survivors family gets it is what about the other ones whose loved ones have passed away, why are they less deserving than others as my guess is we all know someone, or more than one, who has died in this industry, and they are just as deserving as each other.
Just two .02 cents worth.
BOTW
Since all members here have one thing at heart, and thats the support of the helo industry, an air ambulance charity would be the ideal recipient. Or even choose three or four and spread the profits around but then you end up with only giving a small amount to some of them rather than a larger amount to one of them. Just go with whichever one gets the most votes on Rotorheads.
The problem with deciding which survivors family gets it is what about the other ones whose loved ones have passed away, why are they less deserving than others as my guess is we all know someone, or more than one, who has died in this industry, and they are just as deserving as each other.
Just two .02 cents worth.
BOTW