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Old 8th Nov 2011, 19:27
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Query: In lasors the CAA clearly define what a P2 must do to qualify any particular flight for the granting of PIC US for that flight, can a company add additional requirements to this as they see fit?
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 10:03
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That sounds like a bit of a loaded question, as if you are holding something back.

What a pilot puts in his logbook is surely between his national aviation authority and him. It is legally defined (usually). It is even possible for a pilot to be committing an offence if he completes his logbook other than in accordance with the prevailing NAA rules. Of course, under UK CAA practice, P1S needs someone else to cooperate (by countersigning the entry). The logbook is a record that goes beyond the company the pilot is currently working for.

The real ambiguity is when you take a logbook correctly completed from one aviation set of rules to another.
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 11:18
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Yes, companies can specify in their ops manual when you are allowed to claim P1(US) while operating as a co-pilot on a multi-crew operation.
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 13:54
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Hi Norunway

I have to ask why any operator would want to restrict PICUS beyond laying down guidlines for its use in the operations manual!

One of a commander's main roles is to help develop co-pilots for future command and the use of PICUS is the best way to do that. If a co-pilot never gets a chance to make decisions, even wrongish ones, in the environment that one day he will operate as a commander, then he will be ill prepared for that role.

The requirements for logging PICUS are layed out in JAR FCL2 (if you are in Europe) and the operations manual should only lay down guidlines for briefing the role before flight, what happens if the commander has to overule you on a safety decision and things like that.

The final decision as to whether you can log PICUS should be with your commander who will countersign your personal log book entry.

That's my farthings worth.


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Old 9th Nov 2011, 19:18
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Yes, companies can specify in their ops manual when you are allowed to claim P1(US) while operating as a co-pilot on a multi-crew operation.
Hands on,

Do you have a reference for that?

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