uncertified helicopters
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uncertified helicopters
hi there everyone!
i currently hold a pplh licnece in uk, and was wondering about buying in a kit helicopter not a rotorway one. does anyone know the rules on the rules ive been on lasors and having problems finding info on it. even building your own helicopter its just to keep flying without getting into share schemes etc ya know many thanks aaron
i currently hold a pplh licnece in uk, and was wondering about buying in a kit helicopter not a rotorway one. does anyone know the rules on the rules ive been on lasors and having problems finding info on it. even building your own helicopter its just to keep flying without getting into share schemes etc ya know many thanks aaron
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From: 18 Degrees North
See CAP 733 on CAA website for UK
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP733.PDF
So as far as I can see if this type doesn't have a permit to fly you are screwed, you can't even come to a 6 inch hover legally, even inside your own warehouse, I could be wrong though usually am
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP733.PDF
So as far as I can see if this type doesn't have a permit to fly you are screwed, you can't even come to a 6 inch hover legally, even inside your own warehouse, I could be wrong though usually am
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From: UK
Freddie is right,
If you cannot get a PtF, you can't fly it in the UK. In theory, anyone can apply for the permit (for a new type) but you would need mega effort to jump through many CAA hoops and no guarantee at the end.
In general, kit built helicopters are best on the ground being "engineered" IMO.
LASORs only deals with flight crew licensing aspects. You need to look at the airworthiness side of things.
If you cannot get a PtF, you can't fly it in the UK. In theory, anyone can apply for the permit (for a new type) but you would need mega effort to jump through many CAA hoops and no guarantee at the end.
In general, kit built helicopters are best on the ground being "engineered" IMO.
LASORs only deals with flight crew licensing aspects. You need to look at the airworthiness side of things.
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From: In the air with luck
Would start here IF
Helicopter Videos - Vertical Aviation Technologies
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Rotorway helicopter index Home Page
Helicopter Videos - Vertical Aviation Technologies
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Rotorway helicopter index Home Page
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From: london
"What's wrong with Rotorway? I watched some bloke build one on TV a while ago and it looked really well engineered and there appears to be good UK support"
It'll be a cold day in hell before the powers that be in blighty (I know not about Ireland though) allow any other kit than Rotorway..
Rotorway's latest ship, the A600 Talon should be authorised to fly soon...some know-all-know-nothings don't like the belt drive tail rotor on the Execs and 162fs, the A600 has a shaft driven t/r...see Rotorway UK - Home Page
Rotorway feature:
It'll be a cold day in hell before the powers that be in blighty (I know not about Ireland though) allow any other kit than Rotorway..
Rotorway's latest ship, the A600 Talon should be authorised to fly soon...some know-all-know-nothings don't like the belt drive tail rotor on the Execs and 162fs, the A600 has a shaft driven t/r...see Rotorway UK - Home Page
Rotorway feature:
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From: Manitoba Canada
Quite a few turbine Helicycles flying with good reports. They are assembled under the home-built category , not all that expensive (for a helicopter) , the biggest drawback for the average person is often the training costs. If you have your rating you are well on your way.
I believe there are some flying in the UK.
Google "Helicycle Hatchery" for a detailed build from first component delivery to first flight . Lots of pictures and details.
I believe there are some flying in the UK.
Google "Helicycle Hatchery" for a detailed build from first component delivery to first flight . Lots of pictures and details.
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From: FL 010
There was a good series on the Discovery channel a while back 'A Chopper is Born', it featured Mark Evans putting everything together from start to finish. Was very well done and the machine turned out fantastic.... for a Rotorway
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From: london
Hi Arnie
It's not that I have anything against the Helicyle or the Safari or the Hummingbird 260L etc. etc. it's just that to get any other type of kit heli through the approval system over here would require someone with VERY deep pockets plus the patience and dedication of at least 10 saints !!
So for us Brits wanting kits it's Rotorway or nowt !
It's not that I have anything against the Helicyle or the Safari or the Hummingbird 260L etc. etc. it's just that to get any other type of kit heli through the approval system over here would require someone with VERY deep pockets plus the patience and dedication of at least 10 saints !!
So for us Brits wanting kits it's Rotorway or nowt !
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From: Manitoba Canada
More certified-fun ..... in un-certified helicopters. 
If only you could get the UK regulators to watch these videos
Homers Bell's fly-in (Ohio) around 2010. The combined fleet of Helicycles has over 6000 hrs with good results.
If only you could get the UK regulators to watch these videos Homers Bell's fly-in (Ohio) around 2010. The combined fleet of Helicycles has over 6000 hrs with good results.