Shell Southern North Sea Contract 2012
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President Reagan said, "Trust but Verify"
I looked last night and could not find any news stories backing up this claim.
Even the Dancopter website says, NOTHING.
Even the Dancopter website says, NOTHING.
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Geneva Conflict
Hmmm...
"All Bristow / Shell AOC's have been revoked as per januari 2012! Congratulations for all involved at Dancopter!!!"
Are you sure? Bristow would appear to still be flying for Shell in a number of locations and will continue to do so for years to come in the UK at Scatsta.
"Time has come for the big operators like Bristow and CHC to meet with the small but nasty threats like Dancopter, NHV and Heli Holland. Purely because of arrogance, management overkill and uncontrollable long supply chains their dominance is systematicly turning agains them."
Its true that the big operators do have more complicated and costly businesses than Dancopter, NHV and the like. Guess why they got that way? In large part its because they have to contend with the extreme demands of doing large scale business with the likes of Shell, Bp etc.
Dancopter, if they have won, can now look forward to weekly "audits" in one form or another, insistence on standards, services and reports that they probably didn't even dream of when they won the bid and a client that will interpret every angle of the contract to hold DC's feet to the fire daily and want money back if they fail.
If they think its going to be easy - think again. Lets hope they can actually afford to have this contract!
"All Bristow / Shell AOC's have been revoked as per januari 2012! Congratulations for all involved at Dancopter!!!"
Are you sure? Bristow would appear to still be flying for Shell in a number of locations and will continue to do so for years to come in the UK at Scatsta.
"Time has come for the big operators like Bristow and CHC to meet with the small but nasty threats like Dancopter, NHV and Heli Holland. Purely because of arrogance, management overkill and uncontrollable long supply chains their dominance is systematicly turning agains them."
Its true that the big operators do have more complicated and costly businesses than Dancopter, NHV and the like. Guess why they got that way? In large part its because they have to contend with the extreme demands of doing large scale business with the likes of Shell, Bp etc.
Dancopter, if they have won, can now look forward to weekly "audits" in one form or another, insistence on standards, services and reports that they probably didn't even dream of when they won the bid and a client that will interpret every angle of the contract to hold DC's feet to the fire daily and want money back if they fail.
If they think its going to be easy - think again. Lets hope they can actually afford to have this contract!
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Where´s good old Shell Management when you want him??
Great stuff hey, invite everyone to bid for a global contract, one standard and all that, and then hey presto let´s split it up and award to lotsa standards! Don´t you just love ´em!
Great stuff hey, invite everyone to bid for a global contract, one standard and all that, and then hey presto let´s split it up and award to lotsa standards! Don´t you just love ´em!
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We don't need SM's out-of-date and ignorant comments, anyway! I'm all for picking up on rumours, but make-believe comments designed only to wind up readers is behaviour that doesn't belong here amongst professionals.
I also wouldn't be surprised if he's "NHV Management" in reality.
I also wouldn't be surprised if he's "NHV Management" in reality.
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Congrats to the winner! (whoever that is)
It's a disgrace though the way Shell treats there operators and the people behind these operations. Less then 2 months before the contract ends and they only gave info because Bristow demanded it. At least with Wintershall they gave CHC 8 months time to sort out where to go from there. It's like 12 years ago with Schreiner in Den Helder. Oh yes Schreiner, you've won it!
Oh wait, no, we signed with Bristow! 
And like Scotsheli said.... Shell is like a rich diva, as soon as they come in they start demanding, making 1.6 Million GBP profit an hour (Shell makes nearly £1.6m profits every hour | Business | guardian.co.uk), but wanna pay next to nothing for all these demands. Safety this, safety that. Yeah sure, only when it suits them. Bunch of hypocrites...
After hardly making any profit on the last 5 years with Shell in the SNS, it's a good thing Bristow didn't give them any more. It seems Shell only want themselves to make a profit. Besides, the SNS is the first to go tits up in the not so distant future anyway. NNS has the future.
Once again, nobody is a winner here, except the oil companies.
Good luck though to Dancopter, or whoever wins it.
Shell = Hell
It's a disgrace though the way Shell treats there operators and the people behind these operations. Less then 2 months before the contract ends and they only gave info because Bristow demanded it. At least with Wintershall they gave CHC 8 months time to sort out where to go from there. It's like 12 years ago with Schreiner in Den Helder. Oh yes Schreiner, you've won it!
Oh wait, no, we signed with Bristow! And like Scotsheli said.... Shell is like a rich diva, as soon as they come in they start demanding, making 1.6 Million GBP profit an hour (Shell makes nearly £1.6m profits every hour | Business | guardian.co.uk), but wanna pay next to nothing for all these demands. Safety this, safety that. Yeah sure, only when it suits them. Bunch of hypocrites...
After hardly making any profit on the last 5 years with Shell in the SNS, it's a good thing Bristow didn't give them any more. It seems Shell only want themselves to make a profit. Besides, the SNS is the first to go tits up in the not so distant future anyway. NNS has the future.
Once again, nobody is a winner here, except the oil companies.
Good luck though to Dancopter, or whoever wins it.
Shell = Hell
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I remember what happened to Schreiner as well.
They were another small profitable company from the SNS point of view.
Very similar to Dancopter/NHV.
However they didn't have all those offices with titles on the doors they were lean and worked hard.
They were lead to believe that future contracts were at risk unless they addressed some of the "perceived" problem areas.
The quick fix was to buy KLM for their back office and doors with titles on!!!. They certainly didn't want those old 76B's and 61's. It was an expensive option but was considered worth the money to retain the contract and expand.
Then the Shell contract went to Bristow!!!! Ouch.
I remember what happened to Schreiner as well.
They were another small profitable company from the SNS point of view.
Very similar to Dancopter/NHV.
However they didn't have all those offices with titles on the doors they were lean and worked hard.
They were lead to believe that future contracts were at risk unless they addressed some of the "perceived" problem areas.
The quick fix was to buy KLM for their back office and doors with titles on!!!. They certainly didn't want those old 76B's and 61's. It was an expensive option but was considered worth the money to retain the contract and expand.
Then the Shell contract went to Bristow!!!! Ouch.
Is it Shell's fault.....or the Operators?
If the Helicopter Industry wasn't so cut throat....would it not be better for everyone?
The question is how do you get the Operators to work together and still be competitors?
If the Helicopter Industry wasn't so cut throat....would it not be better for everyone?
The question is how do you get the Operators to work together and still be competitors?
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I believe the contract was in two parts at the time. Shell which as you point out was with KLM out of Norwich and the NAM contract which Schreiner held in Den Helder. The NAM was a Shell subsiduary. Bristows got both contracts. It was issues with the NAM that lead Schreiner to buy out KLM.
Happy to be corrected, but this is what I was told at the time. Memory being a variable medium!!!
I remember being in conversation with one of the KLM senior managers and commenting on why the 365,s were going and the 76's were staying. His reply "who would buy them?" .
I believe the contract was in two parts at the time. Shell which as you point out was with KLM out of Norwich and the NAM contract which Schreiner held in Den Helder. The NAM was a Shell subsiduary. Bristows got both contracts. It was issues with the NAM that lead Schreiner to buy out KLM.
Happy to be corrected, but this is what I was told at the time. Memory being a variable medium!!!
I remember being in conversation with one of the KLM senior managers and commenting on why the 365,s were going and the 76's were staying. His reply "who would buy them?" .
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I am told that Bristow were so unhappy with the performance of Shell on the SNS contract that they decided not to tender for the contract renewal and that in future Bristow will only work for oil companies that show them respect and regularly thank them for the marvellous work they do.
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Epiphany:
If this is the established truth, big respect for the bristow management!
should be standard for all other companies, but they are spending to much time to deepen the costs.
If this is the established truth, big respect for the bristow management!
should be standard for all other companies, but they are spending to much time to deepen the costs.