Shell Southern North Sea Contract 2012
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That's a list of 30 people that have to be tested in June. And if the list is intended like you say, how come so many of them on that list are pissed that their name is in the open?
Small effort to only just put the name in there of the other candidate you are doing the testing with.... Not?
Check your facts.
Sensitive for some healthy fact based criticism are we? Don't be on pprune then!
Small effort to only just put the name in there of the other candidate you are doing the testing with.... Not?
Check your facts.
Sensitive for some healthy fact based criticism are we? Don't be on pprune then!
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But are they losing their jobs? Or is there still a chance of staying with the company?
Just spoke to a couple of BHL SNS guys and the company is not telling them anything about their immediate future.
People management never was a BHL strong point but with a month to go and no info for the affected staff at all, this is ridiculous even for their low standards.
Just spoke to a couple of BHL SNS guys and the company is not telling them anything about their immediate future.
People management never was a BHL strong point but with a month to go and no info for the affected staff at all, this is ridiculous even for their low standards.
It would be strange to lose any pilots seeing as Bristow are currently recruiting elsewhere in the UK:
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/353...ml#post7221448
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/353...ml#post7221448
BRISTOW Let your career take off Due to our success in winning new business, Bristow Helicopters Ltd is now recruiting a number of additional key personnel to support our growing customer portfolio. Pilot Vacancies We currently have a number of openings for qualified Pilots within our European Business Unit at Aberdeen, Scatsta and Humberside. To be included in this role, the candidate MUST possess UKCAA/JAA ATPLH or UKCAA/JAA CPLH with ATP theory and UKCAA/JAA IR(H) along with offshore experience. The ideal candidate would have 500 hours flying multi-engine helicopters or be a graduate from Bristow Academy. Candidates with Type rating on AS332L/332L2/EC225LP or S92A preferred, but conversion courses available if required. A competitive salary and benefits package are on offer for all positions. To apply please submit an online application together with a covering letter and CV by clicking Apply Now. Closing Date : Friday 8th June 2012
What do you expect to see at Norwich?
Hangar space is available in the white elephant they previously used when operating for shell, so is the passenger handling facilities. I wouldn't expect to see the helicopters until a few days before the button is pushed.
loadsa time yet.
Hangar space is available in the white elephant they previously used when operating for shell, so is the passenger handling facilities. I wouldn't expect to see the helicopters until a few days before the button is pushed.
loadsa time yet.
I suppose that's the beauty of the helicopter - one can drop in - almost like a 'helicopter' when current facilities are purpose-built for offshore passenger operations and mature helicopter routing procedures and ATC MOUs exist?
But like every other pilot - warm feeling will only exist when flying first departure for the field - or would that be the beef curry?
But like every other pilot - warm feeling will only exist when flying first departure for the field - or would that be the beef curry?
SNI - if you've seen the list then are you going to be based in NWI or DHR? Agree that it would not have taken much effort - but just can't see that there is a problem as those on the list are leaving their current employer.......
if you've seen the list - or been told by the un-diplomatic distribution list, then the pilot who showed you obviously wanted you to know that they were leaving - hence my point.
if you've seen the list - or been told by the un-diplomatic distribution list, then the pilot who showed you obviously wanted you to know that they were leaving - hence my point.
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Swap shop. The aircraft are not in Nigeria. The Vikings will be invading East Anglia very soon and all they need is a hangar and an office.
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What is wrong with the Danish AOC?
NHV use a Belgian AOC out of Norwich. This IS EASA land .
Unless shell specify a UK AOC of course...
Can't imagine that for a moment....
NHV use a Belgian AOC out of Norwich. This IS EASA land .
Unless shell specify a UK AOC of course...
Can't imagine that for a moment....
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And enough lined-checked pilots to satisfy Shell, and maintenance staff/parts/capability, and a spare aircraft (also to satisfy Shell), and the ability to do rotors-running refuels (not allowed at Norwich western apron), and ops staff/facilities, and ramp staff, and a AOC that satifies the CAA.
Not much then...
Not much then...
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What is wrong with the Danish AOC?
Nothing, as long as the contract is completely held & controlled in Denmark and all of the maintenance is done there.
And the guy who thinks three weeks is enough time to set up a complete operation for Shell has obviously yet to recieve a call from their "change management" police! Good luck with that one.
And the guy who thinks three weeks is enough time to set up a complete operation for Shell has obviously yet to recieve a call from their "change management" police! Good luck with that one.
And the guy who thinks three weeks is enough time to set up a complete operation for Shell has obviously yet to recieve a call from their "change management" police! Good luck with that one
And as Epiphany mentioned DC is not Bristow... DanCopter has the ability to respond quickly, unlike Bristow and the likes....
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Nothing, as long as the contract is completely held & controlled in Denmark and all of the maintenance is done there.
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18 days to go until the contract ends, Dancopter still yet to sign all the contract and they have nothing in place at Norwich, and the aircraft still in Nigeria. Shell yet to officially inform Bristow who has won the contract.
And enough lined-checked pilots to satisfy Shell, and maintenance staff/parts/capability, and a spare aircraft (also to satisfy Shell), and the ability to do rotors-running refuels (not allowed at Norwich western apron), and ops staff/facilities, and ramp staff, and a AOC that satifies the CAA.
The job is the same as is it was 40 years ago - a helicopter transporting people to a platform as safely as possible.
Dancopter are fully capable of doing that with a good safety record.
Of course, there are more hoops to jump though nowadays, which benefit us all, but instead of looking at them as 'showstoppers', I'm sure Dancopter are looking at them as challenges, and are liaising with the client.
I wish Dancopter all the best. They seem to have a 'can do' attitude.
They have well trained crew and engineers who seem to be paid in line with the better paid operators in the industry, and most are on an equal time roster.
They're using a modern airframe and have a team who are willing to flex to better the company for whom they work. (Something I know doesn't happen with some of the established operators.)
They seem to have minimal corporate bulls@£t, and the accountants don't outnumber the 'coalface workers.'
So in short:
Well paid crew and engineers.
Good roster.
Flexible, positive staff.
Good safety record.
Modern Airframe.
Small overheads - The accountants don't outnumber the 'coal face' workers.
Doesn't sound like a bad thing to me.
Swapshop - time to take a close look at the company you are working for just now.
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I wish Dancopter all the best. They seem to have a 'can do' attitude.
Is that as in "can do" carry that extra pax even though we are bit over weight?
Is that as in "can do" depart in this aircraft even though there is some tech problem not covered by the MEL?
or what?
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Helicomparator,
No. "Can do' as in working together as a team to get the job done efficiently and safely.
Bristow - at least EBU - has an excellent training organisation and very professional pilots and enginerrs but I am afraid that years of poor management, has led to an erosion of trust and the teamwork concept has disappeared to be replaced by an 'us and them' mentality. This also applies to the working relationship between pilots and engineers and affects an individuals attitude to the job and their willingness to be flexible.
Dabcopter are not perfect and I would imagine that the recent rapid growth has caused problems but they have an attitude that Bristow used to have many years ago and this is why the employees are flexible and are willing to help management get the job done. When you combine this attitude with an equally good training department, an emphasis on safety and good relationships and open communication between management, customers and passengers it works very well.
Losing large contracts to smaller operators cannot be pleasant and as someone who has possibly worked exclusively for Bristow it is natural for you to assume that the smaller operator is somehow inferior and therefore must be less professional - as is shown by the negative comments here from Bristow employees.
You are very wrong.
No. "Can do' as in working together as a team to get the job done efficiently and safely.
Bristow - at least EBU - has an excellent training organisation and very professional pilots and enginerrs but I am afraid that years of poor management, has led to an erosion of trust and the teamwork concept has disappeared to be replaced by an 'us and them' mentality. This also applies to the working relationship between pilots and engineers and affects an individuals attitude to the job and their willingness to be flexible.
Dabcopter are not perfect and I would imagine that the recent rapid growth has caused problems but they have an attitude that Bristow used to have many years ago and this is why the employees are flexible and are willing to help management get the job done. When you combine this attitude with an equally good training department, an emphasis on safety and good relationships and open communication between management, customers and passengers it works very well.
Losing large contracts to smaller operators cannot be pleasant and as someone who has possibly worked exclusively for Bristow it is natural for you to assume that the smaller operator is somehow inferior and therefore must be less professional - as is shown by the negative comments here from Bristow employees.
You are very wrong.