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Shell Southern North Sea Contract 2012

Old 1st Jun 2012, 08:02
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That's a list of 30 people that have to be tested in June. And if the list is intended like you say, how come so many of them on that list are pissed that their name is in the open?
Small effort to only just put the name in there of the other candidate you are doing the testing with.... Not?

Check your facts.

Sensitive for some healthy fact based criticism are we? Don't be on PPRuNe then!

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Old 1st Jun 2012, 08:52
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If you are about to lose your job what is the problem with people knowing that you applying for another one?
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Old 1st Jun 2012, 16:28
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But are they losing their jobs? Or is there still a chance of staying with the company?

Just spoke to a couple of BHL SNS guys and the company is not telling them anything about their immediate future.

People management never was a BHL strong point but with a month to go and no info for the affected staff at all, this is ridiculous even for their low standards.
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Old 1st Jun 2012, 17:10
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It would be strange to lose any pilots seeing as Bristow are currently recruiting elsewhere in the UK:

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/353...ml#post7221448

BRISTOW Let your career take off Due to our success in winning new business, Bristow Helicopters Ltd is now recruiting a number of additional key personnel to support our growing customer portfolio. Pilot Vacancies We currently have a number of openings for qualified Pilots within our European Business Unit at Aberdeen, Scatsta and Humberside. To be included in this role, the candidate MUST possess UKCAA/JAA ATPLH or UKCAA/JAA CPLH with ATP theory and UKCAA/JAA IR(H) along with offshore experience. The ideal candidate would have 500 hours flying multi-engine helicopters or be a graduate from Bristow Academy. Candidates with Type rating on AS332L/332L2/EC225LP or S92A preferred, but conversion courses available if required. A competitive salary and benefits package are on offer for all positions. To apply please submit an online application together with a covering letter and CV by clicking Apply Now. Closing Date : Friday 8th June 2012
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Old 1st Jun 2012, 18:37
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It is disappointing to hear that BALPA adopting an anti-European protectionist attitude.
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 14:02
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What do you expect to see at Norwich?

Hangar space is available in the white elephant they previously used when operating for shell, so is the passenger handling facilities. I wouldn't expect to see the helicopters until a few days before the button is pushed.

loadsa time yet.
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 15:43
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I suppose that's the beauty of the helicopter - one can drop in - almost like a 'helicopter' when current facilities are purpose-built for offshore passenger operations and mature helicopter routing procedures and ATC MOUs exist?
But like every other pilot - warm feeling will only exist when flying first departure for the field - or would that be the beef curry?
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 15:52
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Is rumour true as told yesterday in meeting in North Denes Dancopter had AOC turned down by CAA
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 15:53
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SNI - if you've seen the list then are you going to be based in NWI or DHR? Agree that it would not have taken much effort - but just can't see that there is a problem as those on the list are leaving their current employer.......
if you've seen the list - or been told by the un-diplomatic distribution list, then the pilot who showed you obviously wanted you to know that they were leaving - hence my point.
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 19:33
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Swap shop. The aircraft are not in Nigeria. The Vikings will be invading East Anglia very soon and all they need is a hangar and an office.

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Old 13th Jun 2012, 10:34
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And a sense of humour...... I wonder how long their new task masters will carry them?
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 10:56
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What is wrong with the Danish AOC?

NHV use a Belgian AOC out of Norwich. This IS EASA land .

Unless shell specify a UK AOC of course...

Can't imagine that for a moment....
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 23:32
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And enough lined-checked pilots to satisfy Shell, and maintenance staff/parts/capability, and a spare aircraft (also to satisfy Shell), and the ability to do rotors-running refuels (not allowed at Norwich western apron), and ops staff/facilities, and ramp staff, and a AOC that satifies the CAA.

Not much then...
No - not much at all. Dancopter are not Bristow, and the 155's are still not in Nigeria Mr Doom and Gloom.
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 02:08
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What is wrong with the Danish AOC?

Nothing, as long as the contract is completely held & controlled in Denmark and all of the maintenance is done there.

And the guy who thinks three weeks is enough time to set up a complete operation for Shell has obviously yet to recieve a call from their "change management" police! Good luck with that one.
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 09:34
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And the guy who thinks three weeks is enough time to set up a complete operation for Shell has obviously yet to recieve a call from their "change management" police! Good luck with that one
What makes you think they only had 3 weeks?

And as Epiphany mentioned DC is not Bristow... DanCopter has the ability to respond quickly, unlike Bristow and the likes....

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Old 14th Jun 2012, 11:38
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Nothing, as long as the contract is completely held & controlled in Denmark and all of the maintenance is done there.
Why would the maintenance need to be done there? There's no direct need for the Part-M/Part-145 organisation to even be related to the JAR OPS-3 operator - although many are combined. Lufthansa do base maintenance in the Philippines, so I'm sure Denmark to the UK should be acceptable
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 22:32
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18 days to go until the contract ends, Dancopter still yet to sign all the contract and they have nothing in place at Norwich, and the aircraft still in Nigeria. Shell yet to officially inform Bristow who has won the contract.
And enough lined-checked pilots to satisfy Shell, and maintenance staff/parts/capability, and a spare aircraft (also to satisfy Shell), and the ability to do rotors-running refuels (not allowed at Norwich western apron), and ops staff/facilities, and ramp staff, and a AOC that satifies the CAA.
Swapshop - All this negativity!

The job is the same as is it was 40 years ago - a helicopter transporting people to a platform as safely as possible.

Dancopter are fully capable of doing that with a good safety record.

Of course, there are more hoops to jump though nowadays, which benefit us all, but instead of looking at them as 'showstoppers', I'm sure Dancopter are looking at them as challenges, and are liaising with the client.

I wish Dancopter all the best. They seem to have a 'can do' attitude.

They have well trained crew and engineers who seem to be paid in line with the better paid operators in the industry, and most are on an equal time roster.

They're using a modern airframe and have a team who are willing to flex to better the company for whom they work. (Something I know doesn't happen with some of the established operators.)

They seem to have minimal corporate [email protected]Łt, and the accountants don't outnumber the 'coalface workers.'

So in short:

Well paid crew and engineers.
Good roster.
Flexible, positive staff.
Good safety record.
Modern Airframe.
Small overheads - The accountants don't outnumber the 'coal face' workers.

Doesn't sound like a bad thing to me.

Swapshop - time to take a close look at the company you are working for just now.

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Old 14th Jun 2012, 23:24
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I wish Dancopter all the best. They seem to have a 'can do' attitude.
Is that as in "can do" fly in weather others would decline?
Is that as in "can do" carry that extra pax even though we are bit over weight?
Is that as in "can do" depart in this aircraft even though there is some tech problem not covered by the MEL?

or what?
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Old 15th Jun 2012, 01:46
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Well...

...come the 1st July we will see wont we. I understand there may not be a plan B, so no pressure.
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Old 15th Jun 2012, 07:13
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Helicomparator,

No. "Can do' as in working together as a team to get the job done efficiently and safely.

Bristow - at least EBU - has an excellent training organisation and very professional pilots and enginerrs but I am afraid that years of poor management, has led to an erosion of trust and the teamwork concept has disappeared to be replaced by an 'us and them' mentality. This also applies to the working relationship between pilots and engineers and affects an individuals attitude to the job and their willingness to be flexible.

Dabcopter are not perfect and I would imagine that the recent rapid growth has caused problems but they have an attitude that Bristow used to have many years ago and this is why the employees are flexible and are willing to help management get the job done. When you combine this attitude with an equally good training department, an emphasis on safety and good relationships and open communication between management, customers and passengers it works very well.

Losing large contracts to smaller operators cannot be pleasant and as someone who has possibly worked exclusively for Bristow it is natural for you to assume that the smaller operator is somehow inferior and therefore must be less professional - as is shown by the negative comments here from Bristow employees.

You are very wrong.
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