Yorkshire Air Ambulance & Multiflight
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Yorkshire Air Ambulance & Multiflight
Overheard today that Multiflight has won the Yorkshire Air Ambulance contract in addition to the GNAAS one. I'd say that given one of the people in the conversation (Multiflight management) that it's a reliable source!
I hope that TUPE will apply to all involved (it didn't when MF took over the GNAAS contract!)
I hope that TUPE will apply to all involved (it didn't when MF took over the GNAAS contract!)
There are no limits
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IIRC TUPE was brought in for exactly that reason to stop people getting thrown out or ripped off as the new contractor came in.
What may have happened is that the incumbents were offered positions with the new contractor and elected not to take them up.
What may have happened is that the incumbents were offered positions with the new contractor and elected not to take them up.
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Charity owned or ?
Didn't the charity buy their 902's, or are they on a finance package similar to leasing, ie One of PAS's a/c mortgages?
Not suprised it went to Multiflight, they are a far better outfit, management and owner wise.
Not suprised it went to Multiflight, they are a far better outfit, management and owner wise.
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Re the old 902's
Miss Tilton might buy the 902's for spares if the charity drop her a line, or Joep and his PAS/MAS outfit may want them for the other dwindling contracts.
At least YAA saw the light, Multiflight are an outfit on how it should be done here in the UK, just ask GNAA and Michael Owen
At least YAA saw the light, Multiflight are an outfit on how it should be done here in the UK, just ask GNAA and Michael Owen
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An interesting 'find' from the charity's annual report '09 (covering the period to March '10)
And from another part of the report
So just maybe, they now own both cabs and are looking for a more local maintenance arrangement than shipping them all the way down to Gloucester? Don't forget, this charity uniquely benefitted from the unfortunate accident involving a telly celeb and an ongoing high profile telly series....
The MAS guys have always played a pretty straight bat as far as I can tell. Yes, I've sat round a desk with them, arguing my point of view (which didn't agree with theirs!) but that's what negotiating is all about. They are a business at the end of the day, not a charity themselves.
The net consolidated assets of the YAA Charity has increased by 26%
and now stand at £4.43M and this has allowed us to repay additional
monies on the Yorkshire Bank asset finance loans on our helicopter
G-CEMS and it is planned that by March 2011, the initial asset finance
loans for the two helicopters will be totally repaid
and now stand at £4.43M and this has allowed us to repay additional
monies on the Yorkshire Bank asset finance loans on our helicopter
G-CEMS and it is planned that by March 2011, the initial asset finance
loans for the two helicopters will be totally repaid
By March 2009, we had repaid the first finance loan on G-SASH
leaving a balance of £566,130 on G-CEMS, which is due to be paid
by March 2014. We do however, envisage the outstanding balance
on G-CEMS to be fully repaid by March 2011
leaving a balance of £566,130 on G-CEMS, which is due to be paid
by March 2014. We do however, envisage the outstanding balance
on G-CEMS to be fully repaid by March 2011
The MAS guys have always played a pretty straight bat as far as I can tell. Yes, I've sat round a desk with them, arguing my point of view (which didn't agree with theirs!) but that's what negotiating is all about. They are a business at the end of the day, not a charity themselves.
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Arguing your point of view regarding what? Not involved with the convicted fraudsters from the Ambulance Service, were you?
Or the attempt to introduce a Finnish pilot to write up an AOC? And pay him out of charity funds? And call him "Chief Pilot" even though the MAS Chief Pilot was still there? Eventually scrapping the whole idea? (At great cost).
Murky past to YAA! I was there playing the straight bat.
Arguing your point of view regarding what? Not involved with the convicted fraudsters from the Ambulance Service, were you?
Or the attempt to introduce a Finnish pilot to write up an AOC? And pay him out of charity funds? And call him "Chief Pilot" even though the MAS Chief Pilot was still there? Eventually scrapping the whole idea? (At great cost).
Murky past to YAA! I was there playing the straight bat.
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Perhaps I should make plain that my involvement with MAS/PAS was nothing to do with YAA, but with another completely separate charity.
Not defending anyone, just providing a little balance.
WAATP, do all your insider comments relate to MAS and their practices or rather more YAA goings-on?
Not defending anyone, just providing a little balance.
WAATP, do all your insider comments relate to MAS and their practices or rather more YAA goings-on?
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From: Sussex but could be moving!
Who's really in charge matters to the customer.
MAS/PAS is owned and ran by Joep van den Nieuwenhuyzen who is on trial again in Holland.
He's Already done a stretch inside for previous irregular payments etc, so maybe it doesnt matter who is working in the trenches with the guys on the ground or in the air.
The customer may want a breath of fresh air when handing out the contracts and who they are paying the money to even if another operator is more expensive.
I'm suprised the UK police still have anything to do with Joep after the Pinochet tank investigation, as he is PAS/MAS and on bail again!
Maybe a change of cab will be just what the doctor/paramedic ordered, as well
The Great North charity seem to be doing well with the Multiflight firm and their 2 new dauphins, according to a mate up north
He's Already done a stretch inside for previous irregular payments etc, so maybe it doesnt matter who is working in the trenches with the guys on the ground or in the air.
The customer may want a breath of fresh air when handing out the contracts and who they are paying the money to even if another operator is more expensive.
I'm suprised the UK police still have anything to do with Joep after the Pinochet tank investigation, as he is PAS/MAS and on bail again!
Maybe a change of cab will be just what the doctor/paramedic ordered, as well
The Great North charity seem to be doing well with the Multiflight firm and their 2 new dauphins, according to a mate up north
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My comments relate to shenanigans by the charity in the early days. It was definitely MAS playing the straight bat in those days! There were enough idiots with their own agenda trying to change things. I was even warned by the first Flight Ops Inspector for YAA to watch out for the "Yorkshire Mafia"! Some Characters well known to the CAA back then but they couldn't warn me about the fraudsters running WYMAS!
Glad to see the charity is running so well and good luck to them with Multiflight, who were always supportive and a great help to YAA in the early days. (Even though it was MAS). I'm sure they will provide a good service.
Glad to see the charity is running so well and good luck to them with Multiflight, who were always supportive and a great help to YAA in the early days. (Even though it was MAS). I'm sure they will provide a good service.
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facts not fiction. Well done YAA
Peterprobe, (HR) Keep fishing but if I was running an ambulance charity who were paying lots of charity money out, I'd sure want to know who owned the company, so gather what you want.
If the owner of the previous company was such an angel there wouldnt be another trial going on in Holland at the moment now would there?
How many in the UK and company itself knew about the owners previous trial and prison sentance before it all came out on here, after being heavily publicised in Holland? Not many I bet, but I have a feeling thats how you'd like it to be!
Multiflight on the other hand are like a breath of fresh air in the industry on how it should be done.
Good luck to all at YAA, the BBC tv show provides an interesting insight into just what a good service you and other ambulance charities provide on a daily basis - saving lives. Its a pity the government doesnt help with funding
but if I was running an ambulance charity who were paying lots of charity money out, I'd sure want to know who owned the company, so gather what you want. If the owner of the previous company was such an angel there wouldnt be another trial going on in Holland at the moment now would there?
How many in the UK and company itself knew about the owners previous trial and prison sentance before it all came out on here, after being heavily publicised in Holland? Not many I bet, but I have a feeling thats how you'd like it to be!
Multiflight on the other hand are like a breath of fresh air in the industry on how it should be done.
Good luck to all at YAA, the BBC tv show provides an interesting insight into just what a good service you and other ambulance charities provide on a daily basis - saving lives. Its a pity the government doesnt help with funding
