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Old 4th Apr 2011, 14:08
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Industrial action in Humberside?

I’ve Just heard from a close friend that the Bristow pilots in Humberside are currently considering industrial action.
Management have recently imposed a 200 day roster without consultation.
Management have also informed recently TUPE’d personnel that if harmonized terms & conditions are not accepted, their employment will be terminated. Only for it to be offered again with new Ts & Cs.
Surely this can’t be legal.
It also shows the consideration management types have towards their employees in today’s bonus culture.
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Management have also informed recently TUPE’d personnel that if harmonized terms & conditions are not accepted, their employment will be terminated. Only for it to be offered again with new Ts & Cs.
Surely this can’t be legal.
Yes it is legal but there is a time constraint, I think that the original contract terms have to be observed for ?? months. Might be 13.
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"considering" is a long way from standing around a brazier on strike.
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13? Guys were TUPE’d Sept 1st, so 7 months.
The courts have no specific recognised time period.
If the company had more pilots than they required then surely the appropriate procedures should be followed, ie. ‘Last in first out’, continuous employment means that these guys went across with CHC start dates and are probably longer serving than quite a few original BHL guys.
Because their actions aren’t due to an excess in pilot numbers and merely to get these fella’s onto a more convenient contract, convenient to management, I’d be surprised if this didn’t have grounds for unfair dismissal. Get a decent employment lawyer, BHL would run to the hills. Or even better than that, don’t go back when they offer the new Ts&Cs - their loss.
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How about Norwich ?

Is the same thing happening at norwich? Whats the mood like there?

Shows its not just CHC that have there problems, these things always come around!
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It would be good if the Bristow pilot workforce stood united, but unfortunately they seem to be a workforce of individuals when it comes to matters such as these.
There won't be much input from the union either, complete waste of money.
After their recent fiasco in Aberdeen it’s not surprising that Bristow have the confidence to show a brazen disregard toward their employees.
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Oh don't tell me, mis-direction, fractured workforce, the imposition of a 200day roster for the pilots? I see Bristow Helicopters must have employed an anti-union american boss then? Let me think, all of this sounds very very familiar to us on PPRuNe. Try CHC only a year or so ago? But wait, don't Bristow at Humberside have a few x chc pilots? Didn't those very same pilots stand up for themselves and manage to get a 189day lifestyle roster agreed?

This is indeed a chance for the union to show they will back their members (who pay their wages and pension pots) and push for immediate action should Bristow Helicopters start to mess people about without agreements.

I'll just go and get my popcorn, settle back, and watch as this one unfurls. Please do keep us up to date with this new soap.

Go on boys, give the company something to think about, don't waste time, just go for a strike.
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I’ve Just heard from a close friend that the Bristow pilots in Humberside are currently considering industrial action.
Management have recently imposed a 200 day roster without consultation.
Management have also informed recently TUPE’d personnel that if harmonized terms & conditions are not accepted, their employment will be terminated. Only for it to be offered again with new Ts & Cs.
Surely this can’t be legal.
It also shows the consideration management types have towards their employees in today’s bonus culture.
I haven't posted on PPRuNe in a long time but I think the last time that i did, it was probably on this very subject, just a different company. As it's probably no secret that i'm one of the affected few, then i'd just like to clear up a few points.
No industrial action had been considered on 4th April as no Union meeting had taken place at that time.
A meeting has now taken place and it was one of the options discussed if the managament decide to press ahead with the new roster imposition, more days worked etc
As for TUPE? Well, the less I say on that subject the better as it is rapidly becoming clear that this will also lead to some interesting times in the near future.

My only concern is that for anything to be decided, and for any possible 'useful' negotiation to take place, there should be a very open and joint effort to achieve what the pilot workforce would like and what the management require. Now how hard can that be? There must be common ground where everyone would be content, the job would get done, and the so called 'Target Zero' could be achieved. Surely, a happy workforce is a flexible workforce?, to quote a colleague.

If the company had more pilots than they required then surely the appropriate procedures should be followed, ie. ‘Last in first out’, continuous employment means that these guys went across with CHC start dates and are probably longer serving than quite a few original BHL guys.
Because their actions aren’t due to an excess in pilot numbers and merely to get these fella’s onto a more convenient contract, convenient to management, I’d be surprised if this didn’t have grounds for unfair dismissal. Get a decent employment lawyer, BHL would run to the hills. Or even better than that, don’t go back when they offer the new Ts&Cs - their loss.
It would be interesting to ask what would happen to the TUPE'd pilots if they were then TUPE'd back to CHC? Their start date would carry back across and yes, LIFO would probably be used although i'm sure CHC wouldn't require all of the pilots, surely??

You couldn't make this stuff up.
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I think this thread will shed some light on current/future events at Bristow

http://www.pprune.org/african-aviati...licopters.html
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Bristow Pilots in industrial action

Hi there - I am doing some research into the impact (or lack of) of unions in the aviation industry, and am doing a quick scope of the helicopter side also. My general view from what I have read is that BALPA, Unite and others attempt to do a good job, and engage with the companies on pay etc, but that, ultimately, the employers hold the whip hand, pressure from the O&G companies being a good reason to plead poverty. I'm interested in any views on this issue from those who have worked at BHL, CHC, Bond etc and, in this example of Bristow Humberside how effective BALPA were. As background, I am a slight pinko, so have union sympathies as far as I think they should exist and fight for the rights of workers, but am doing a general research project and not working on behalf of a union (or a newspaper!)
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Management have recently imposed a 200 day roster without consultation
Is there any leave allowance on top of that?
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